Democrats should pay attention to Kristen McDonald Rivet's election postmortem

[u/cathbadh]

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/kristen-mcdonald-rivet-democrats-win-rcna184010

[u/janeaustenfiend]

My one insight from my experience with family and friends is that I think a lot of middle-aged and older people who don’t use social media or Reddit are unsettled by how radical certain segments of the progressive left have become. My Mom is a liberal boomer and she was genuinely shocked by some of the anti-Israel protests that featured people tearing down posters of Israeli hostages. I talked to many people who were terrified by what was unfolding on college campuses. The reaction has been similar to the celebrations surrounding Luigi Mangione.  

I think a lot of this unhinged behavior is distracting people from what most progressives are trying to accomplish and it’s making moderate liberals wary. The internet is robbing many people of their ability to think critically or even show compassion for their ideological opponents and it’s alarming to people who don’t spend very much of their time online. 

[u/samudrin → u/janeaustenfiend]

Funny, the article about the Michigan pol who won with +7% lead over Kamala, who’s #1 point was “don’t blame woke…” one of the top comments of course: “oh it’s the anti-genocide protesters. They’re scary.”

Ridiculous.

Bombing a civilian population is scary. Protesting said genocide is the only moral stance.

[u/janeaustenfiend → u/samudrin]

I don’t have a problem with some of the protesters, but I live in DC and saw a protest with my own two eyes at Union Station in which more than one person had swastikas drawn on posters and someone was wearing a Hezbollah headband. If you think behavior that didn’t lose the Democrats votes then we’ll have to agree to disagree. 

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[u/samudrin → u/janeaustenfiend]

What do swastikas have to do with Democrats? 

Neo-nazis are hard right by definition. 

You're more likely to see swastikas, confederate flags and KKK hoods together protesting for Trump and white supremacy, like in the NC marches during Trump I.

To be clear I’m not equating Republican voters with neo-Nazis. I’m saying neo-Nazis, if they bother to vote, vote for Trump.

And again, the article points to the fact that the pol won by focusing on economic issues. That was her message.

[u/back_that_ → u/samudrin]

What do swastikas have to do with Democrats?

When it's the far left pro-Hamas protesters spray painting them, you know.

You're more likely to see swastikas, confederate flags and KKK hoods together protesting for Trump and white supremacy, like in the NC marches during Trump I.

https://www.jsonline.com/story/news/local/2024/09/12/pro-palestinian-mural-of-swastika-star-of-david-set-up-in-milwaukee/75195668007/

[u/samudrin → u/back_that_]

I get why people equate the State of Israel and the IDF with the Nazi regime.  

All you have to do is look at the bombings, the attacks on a civilian population, the illegal occupation, the ever expanding settlements, the open air prison that became a modem day slaughter house, whole families eliminated, the largest population of child amputees.  

Makes sense that people of conscience are angry.

Also, I don’t see where Hamas has anything to do with the mural in the article you linked.

[u/back_that_ → u/samudrin]

Those are not Republican voters painting swastikas. No amount of anti-semitism is going to change that fact.

Edit: Replying then blocking me doesn't seem to charitable.

[u/samudrin → u/back_that_]

It’s clearly anti-Zionist.

The Republican voters, don’t paint protest murals that convey the irony of the state that was setup to provide a homeland for the survivors of the Holocaust is now perpetrating a genocide on the Palestinian people.

Republicans voters, however, actually march around in brown shirts with swastikas on their armbands and fly Nazi flags at their protests.

Unclear how you fail to see the stark contrast.