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Trump Team Weighs Options, Including Airstrikes, to Stop Iran’s Nuclear Program News Article

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-iran-plan-nuclear-weapons-def26f1d
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u/Command0Dude 24d ago

Why not? Israel proved you can strike Iranian nuclear facilities and Iran can't do shit about it.

Iran choosing not to do shit about it.

What happens when they decide to declare a blockade on the straight of Hormuz, and throw the world oil economy into crisis?

They can absolutely cause another 70s energy crisis whenever they want. It's their version of the nuclear option.

The nuclear deal is moronic and has only enabled Tehran.

That was literally the only thing we had that could've convinced Iran to give up their nuclear program. Eventually they're going to be able to develop one in secret no matter how much we bomb them. Iran is a pretty big country and eventually we'll miss something and they'll have it.

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u/Sabertooth767 Neoclassical Liberal 24d ago

>What happens when they decide to declare a blockade on the straight of Hormuz, and throw the world oil economy into crisis? They can absolutely cause another 70s energy crisis whenever they want. It's their version of the nuclear option.

It wouldn't be the first time we sank the Iranian navy for fucking around in the Persian Gulf.

Also, the vast majority of oil that goes through that area is bound for Asia.

>That was literally the only thing we had that could've convinced Iran to give up their nuclear program. Eventually they're going to be able to develop one in secret no matter how much we bomb them. Iran is a pretty big country and eventually we'll miss something and they'll have it.

If they can hide a nuclear site from our bombs, they certainly can from IAEA.

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u/Command0Dude 24d ago

It wouldn't be the first time we sank the Iranian navy for fucking around in the Persian Gulf.

My dude, the Houthis have significantly less capability than the Iranians, and the Red Sea straight is still mostly blockaded.

Also, the vast majority of oil that goes through that area is bound for Asia.

Doesn't matter, oil is a global market. Gas will get more expensive here because an oil shortage for Asia means they will pay more for oil, and producers will ship that oil to Asia from somewhere else. As oil prices rise, oil companies will be able to sell for higher profits, raising the prices in America.

Or, did you not notice how in 2022 gas prices surged because of a war in Ukraine, even though we got no oil from Russia?

2022 will look like a molehill by comparison.

If they can hide a nuclear site from our bombs, they certainly can from IAEA.

It's a matter of difference in degree.

Under the Iran deal the we would only have to find a single site out of compliance to impose sanctions again, which would just mean going back to square 1. Without the Iran deal, we need to find every single site.

Is finding 1 site easier or harder than finding every single site without exception?

Iran was on course to be ruled by moderates who might have normalized relations with us. After Trump nuked the Iran deal, the moderates were pushed out of power and hardliners took over, leading to a more militant Iran. How did that help us?

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u/Neglectful_Stranger 24d ago

My dude, the Houthis have significantly less capability than the Iranians, and the Red Sea straight is still mostly blockaded.

Because Biden has been handling them with kid gloves.