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Trump Team Weighs Options, Including Airstrikes, to Stop Iran’s Nuclear Program News Article

https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/trump-iran-plan-nuclear-weapons-def26f1d
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u/N0r3m0rse 24d ago

Oh great. Can't wait for Joe Rogan to talk about how safe trump makes him feel after this.

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u/BadgerCabin 24d ago

Well the opposite would be feeling safe with Iran having nukes. Is that what you are claiming?

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u/N0r3m0rse 24d ago

Well you know, if trump hadn't blown up Obama's Iran deal we wouldn't really be worrying about that right now.

But sure, let's start a war that could've been easily avoided.

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u/Tw1tcHy Aggressively Moderate Radical Centrist 24d ago

Actually the deal would be expiring shortly and Iran would have a much stronger economic position to continue funding terror proxies and resuming their own nuclear development.

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u/Neglectful_Stranger 24d ago

The nuclear deal was straight garbage.

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u/st0nedeye 23d ago

Ahh, and dumping it for a nuclear capable Iran was sooooOoooOooOoo much better?

I'm so sick of people bemoaning that deal while not acknowledging that getting rid of it led directly to Iran being in the position they are today.

Or even being able to face the reality that at this point Iran can produce a deployable nuke in a matter of weeks, if not days.

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u/Neglectful_Stranger 23d ago

Iran was going to become nuclear capable either way unless the US directly attacks, all the deal did was give them money to fund terrorism.

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u/st0nedeye 23d ago edited 23d ago

"I'm so sick of people bemoaning that deal while not acknowledging that getting rid of it led directly to Iran being in the position they are today."

Your response is exactly what I'm talking about.

Maybe the deal would have worked, and I can even acknowledge it might not have as well. But it's utterly certain that pulling out in the way we did led to the worst possible outcome and because of that, the argument that it wasn't a good deal is completely asinine.


It's analogous to a person sitting in the passenger seat complaining that the driver was going too fast so they we're forced to grab the wheel and crash the car into a brick wall.

Dude.

Arguing that the car was being driving carelessly is completely pointless when that wasn't the reason the car crashed.

The reason the car crashed and the reason we're in this position vis-a-vis Iranian nukes is because someone else grabbed the wheel and stupidly drove us straight into a wall.


And to bring this full circle back to the current issue at hand.

It's really, really hard to trust the judgement of the guy who recklessly drove us straight into brick wall to make any sort of reasonable judgement about where we should go from here. But that's where we are.

It very well may be that these public musings about bombing Iran will lead them from being a nuclear capable country to a nuclear armed one by the time trump takes office.

You can be damn well sure that Iran is reconsidering their decision to take a knee on the goal line.

God save us from this stupidity.