Oman - a country rarely spoken about. What's happening there?

[u/Necessary_Wing799]

Oman is located in a area we heat about a lot for an array of reasons - there are many famous and newsworthy spots close by from dubai to Doha to Iran and Yemen...... what goes on in Oman? Let us know how life is here and any relevant info on its current state....

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

You can go to prison in Thailand for insulting the king. That’s not chill. That’s not a place people should go.

[u/leehoswald1963 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

Im not telling people to visit. I only see my family once every few years cause I feel more comfortable in a free country as well, but I’m talking about the people and the culture being chill not the laws. This is a nuanced topic and not black and white.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/leehoswald1963]

You live in a free country because you know it’s not chill. I will never understand refugees who pretend things weren’t bad the place they fled.

[u/leehoswald1963 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

Perhaps it might be because you've never had the experience of being a refugee yourself. I can have good memories about the community I grew up in, while still acknowledging the problems that led me to leaving, problems that are not a reflection of the Thai people at large.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/leehoswald1963]

I’m the child of Cuban refugees. Cuba is shit and I hope it burns to the ground.

[u/leehoswald1963 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

I don't wish the same for my friends or family still living in Thailand, if the country burned to the ground they would have no home. I also hope the best for the people of Cuba, I don't want their home to burn to the ground either, we can disagree here.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/leehoswald1963]

Fuck that! Fuck socialism, fuck monarchy, fuck fascism. If you’re not liberal democracy fuck you.

[u/leehoswald1963 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

You're having a really hard time seeing that the policies and laws that govern a country, are not always representative of their people. I support liberal democracy as well, I don't support fascism or monarchy, but I can still acknowledge the people who live under these regimes as human beings who don't deserve to have their country burned to the ground.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/leehoswald1963]

When their countries are burned to the ground they can have liberal democracy. Look what happened in Germany and Italy.

[u/leehoswald1963 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

If you're going to take the position that every country in the world that isn't a liberal democracy should be burned to the ground, regardless of the human cost, in order to achieve a a liberal democracy, then I applaud you for being so steadfast in your beliefs. I personally find these things a bit less straightforward.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/leehoswald1963]

Democracy is non negotiable.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/[deleted]]

Is it really better to be alive without democracy? My parents risked floating through the ocean on garbage because they didn’t think so.

[u/GoodbyeLiberty → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

Do you realize that the things you are saying are incredibly fascist?

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/GoodbyeLiberty]

Yeah the well known fascist position that everyone should vote in their own governance. Lmao.

[u/GoodbyeLiberty → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

"These countries that I know nothing about deserve to burn to the ground because they don't have the same ideals as me as a western liberal."

[u/leehoswald1963 → u/GoodbyeLiberty]

They aren't interested in discussion, they have taken a position and anyone who disagrees is wrong, I feel silly for thinking it was worth sharing personal anecdotes from my life to try and engage with any kind of nuance or sincerity.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/GoodbyeLiberty]

Democracy is non negotiable.

[u/doorbell2021 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

You seem to think that it's really simple to have a liberal democracy in a country that has no tradition of democracy. We've been at it for a couple hundred years in the US and are managing to fuck things up pretty well currently.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/doorbell2021]

The president you don’t like winning a democratic election is not a lapse in democracy sorry.

[u/doorbell2021 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

Would you feel the same way when a democratically-elected government in a Muslim country takes away fundamental freedoms from those they disagree with?

Just because you are elected doesn't mean you are a just and fair leader.

Just because you are a monarch doesn't mean you can't be good leader.

Oman is certainly not perfect, but it is about as close as you'll find to benevolent dictatorship in the real world.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/doorbell2021]

Lmao. What fundamental freedoms is trump taking away?

[u/doorbell2021 → u/EnvironmentalEnd6104]

This is the wrong sub for that extensive list.

[u/EnvironmentalEnd6104 → u/doorbell2021]

So you couldn’t think of any? Hysterical.