r/dndmemes Karsus Expert Nov 08 '24

Good Job WotC Lore meme

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u/SpceCowBoi Nov 09 '24

Race has nothing to do with skin colour. Race is a cultural construct, skin colour is determined by the environment and genetics. Not bait, there is a difference.

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u/RayForce_ Nov 09 '24

You didn't answer the question. So are you implying you can tell the race difference between the movie Aragorn and the MTG Aragorn because you're analyzing the genetic structure & environmental conditions?

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u/SpceCowBoi Nov 09 '24

I explained that race and skin colour are not connected, so that answers your question. But being of Numenorean race is important to Aragorn as a character.

Since humans have lived on Numenor for literally thousands of years, and Numenor is described as having an environment similar from Northern Europe in the north, to the Mediterranean in the south, we can pretty easily assume humans on Numenor were phenotypically similar to Europeans.

We can also easily say Numenoreans resembled Europeans because Tolkien intended for his fictional story to be adjacent to English mythology.

So yeah, you could have a black Aragon of Numenorean race, but if you want an accurate Aragorn he’d be white.

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u/RayForce_ Nov 10 '24

Since humans have lived on Numenor for literally thousands of years, and Numenor is described as having an environment similar from Northern Europe in the north

wtfdoes this mean? Is the implication that skin colors are like pokemon types that can only exist in certain environments? Is the black numenorean Aragorn from MTG bad because he'd be incapable of existing in an imaginary fantasy world inspired by Northern Europe?? Are black dudes incapable of sipping tea and heating up beans on toast? What the fuck are you talking about bro lmao

So yeah, you could have a black Aragon of Numenorean race, but if you want an accurate Aragorn he’d be white.

MATE, Numenoreans don't live in Europe. Inspired by Europe =/= they literally live there. They live in a fantasy world that only exists in our minds. It's wild how people will say it's "innacurate" for some Numenoreans to be black because they're intended to represent Europeans, but somehow Numeroeans having a lifespan of hundreds of years is less ridiculous and fine.

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u/SpceCowBoi Nov 10 '24

I can’t tell if you’re purposely not understanding the inferences I’m making or are genuinely unaware of the facts I’ve stated. Either way sounds like it’s your problem.