r/benshapiro • u/Taconinja05 • Aug 26 '22

Heavily redacted affidavit says 184 classified docs found at Trump residence… Discussion/Debate

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3616929-heavily-redacted-affidavit-says-184-classified-docs-found-at-trump-residence/
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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22

You're the one making shit up to defend Donny dumbass, a former president doesn't have the right to take defense documents, you'd know that if you actually understood the laws he broke

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u/jliebs1 Aug 27 '22

U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2 ("The President [is] Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States[.]"). His constitutionally-based authority regarding the classification and declassification of documents is unfettered. See Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518, 527 (1988) ("[The President's] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.

it must be difficult for you, not being able to simply contort, twist and spin the law like you guys do with everything else. For example , changing the definition of recession to fit your narrative. Not going to work here. In fact the whole strategy has been an enormous backfire.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22

Now go and read the laws he broke by taking those defense documents. Notice how classification doesn't come up. Facts don't care about your feelings bud

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u/jliebs1 Aug 27 '22

you really are just a cup of baby carrots, eh bud? U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2 ("The President [is] Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States[.]"). His constitutionally-based authority regarding the classification and declassification of documents is unfettered. See Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518, 527 (1988) ("[The President's] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22

Why do you think repeating the same irrelevant law will change anything? Trump isn't the president

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u/jliebs1 Aug 27 '22

so , these are called facts. They used to matter .

U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2 ("The President [is] Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States[.]"). His constitutionally-based authority regarding the classification and declassification of documents is unfettered. See Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518, 527 (1988) ("[The President's] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22

No that's called an irrelevant fact and it doesn't matter in this case because Trump isn't president. He lost the election.

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u/jliebs1 Aug 27 '22

what??? This whole staged attack is based on his time as president and what he did or did not do during the transition.The law is Abundantly relevant. Sorry you don't like the law but he had every right to declassify everything he wanted to. Now do be so kind as to explain why queen Hillary was allowed to destroy stolen property and stolen classified material. No raid. I'll wait......

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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22

No it's not, it's about documents he removed from the white house on his way out. The relevant laws are 18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy U.S. Code prev | next Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

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u/jliebs1 Aug 27 '22

wow accept the law actually makes an exception for presidential declassification. hahaha. Now please explain how goddess Hillary was exempted from the consequences of what you just posted. I know its a fact she did not ever have the power to declassify so by your own post she should be in jail for 20 years.First for the stealing of documents and second for the altering and destruction of top secret documents. I can live with that.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22 edited Aug 27 '22

No it doesn't as it doesn't matter what classification the documents have. Try sticking to facts not your feelings

Also it's except not accept

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u/jliebs1 Aug 27 '22

here's a fact

U.S. Const., Art. II, § 2 ("The President [is] Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States[.]"). His constitutionally-based authority regarding the classification and declassification of documents is unfettered. See Navy v. Egan, 484 U.S. 518, 527 (1988) ("[The President's] authority to classify and control access to information bearing on national security ... flows primarily from this constitutional investment of power in the President and exists quite apart from any explicit congressional grant.

here's another fact, goddess Hillary wasn't prosecuted for destruction of top secret documents and theft of documents when we know for a fact she destroyed over 30,000 documents after being instructed to turn them over? Rules for thee not for me. "wiped, you mean like with a cloth"/? said Hillary ---So dangerous she actually put our very democracy at risk.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 27 '22

Yes I know you keep posting that irrelevant fact and then try and whataboutism Hillary because you had HDS (Hillary derangement syndrome) but the law Trump broke 18 U.S. Code § 1519 - Destruction, alteration, or falsification of records in Federal investigations and bankruptcy

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Whoever knowingly alters, destroys, mutilates, conceals, covers up, falsifies, or makes a false entry in any record, document, or tangible object with the intent to impede, obstruct, or influence the investigation or proper administration of any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of the United States or any case filed under title 11, or in relation to or contemplation of any such matter or case, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

Has no exemption for declassified defense documents.

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