r/benshapiro • u/Taconinja05 • Aug 26 '22

Heavily redacted affidavit says 184 classified docs found at Trump residence… Discussion/Debate

https://thehill.com/policy/national-security/3616929-heavily-redacted-affidavit-says-184-classified-docs-found-at-trump-residence/
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u/hackenstuffen Aug 26 '22

"Glenn S. Gerstell, the top lawyer for the National Security Agency from 2015 to 2020, pronounced the idea that whatever Mr. Trump happened to take upstairs each evening automatically became declassified — without logging what it was and notifying the agencies that used that information — “preposterous.”"

You clearly have never worked in a classified environment, and have no idea what you are talking about.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 26 '22

Oh really? So somehow your quote of Gerstells opinion some how outweighs what is currently and has always been the way its done?

Oh keep on reaching, I'm very much enjoying you struggling your war through this one.

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u/hackenstuffen Aug 26 '22

The way it is currently - and has always been - done is for the President to order something declassified, and whatever he orders declassified is disseminated, all instances of that document are declassified. There is no set process for the President to issue that order, but there does need to be an order that "X document is no longer classified". There's no evidence of an order, there's no evidence that any of those documents were declassified (quite the opposite), and the documents remain classified where they exist in multiple places. The mental gymnastics going on with your tortured logic path really do deserve a gold medal - I commend your dedication to a lack of logical consistency.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 26 '22

That is a conventional way of doing it and yes that is how it is done in some or most cases, but it is not the required way of doing it.

You are supposed to boil macaroni and cheese on the oven but sometimes you can cook it in a microwave.

Like I said. It's not the conventional way it's handled but its not required to do so. Every. President. Has. Done. This.

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u/hackenstuffen Aug 26 '22

"You are supposed to boil macaroni and cheese on the oven but sometimes you can cook it in a microwave."

But the macaroni still gets cooked one way or the other - he didn't even bother to cook the macaroni.

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 26 '22

Yes he did by saying "these are declassified" that's how this works.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 26 '22

It's also completely irrelevant to the crimes he committed by removing those documents. https://youtu.be/OQrlJUHnzII

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 26 '22

It's a crime to remove declassified documents? If so please explain how he did it.

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u/sib_korrok Aug 26 '22

Read the laws he broke when removing those defense documents. It's actually worse if he declassified them

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 26 '22

So you know what documents they were? Can you show me?

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u/sib_korrok Aug 26 '22

You're still not getting it. I don't think you ever will

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u/MrEnigma67 Aug 26 '22

I'm getting it. You just don't have th answer to that and are now trying to avoid the question you can't answer because you walked right into an argument you are unable to handle

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u/sib_korrok Aug 26 '22

No you're not, you're going in circles like you have a point. He didn't declassify anything and if he did it doesn't matter and is actually worse as the laws he broke are for defense documents not classified documents. We know he had defense documents because of what was removed from his failing golf club.

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