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White House Lashes Out At Republicans Over Student Loan Cancellation; Conservatives Fire Back | The Daily Wire, Aug 26th, 2022 - Attempting to paint Congress Republicans as hypocrites because they took out Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans during the COVID pandemic, which were later forgiven. Daily Wire

https://www.dailywire.com/news/white-house-lashes-out-at-republicans-over-student-loan-cancellation-conservatives-fire-back
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u/HalfbakedArtichoke Aug 26 '22

They FORCED business to close.

You CHOOSE to take out a student loan.

Apples and Oranges. They know it. Their voters aren't bright enough to realize it though.

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u/YourFreelanceWriter Aug 26 '22 edited Aug 26 '22

Forgiven PPP Loans= paid for by taxpayers Student Loan Forgiveness = paid for by taxpayers

If student loan forgiveness is a handout, then so are PPP loans. It doesn't matter how you try to twist things.

It is laughable that anyone who took out a PPP loan/"government handout" and had it forgiven has the audacity to whine and complain about student loan forgiveness/"government handout". Taxpayers are footing the bill for both.

But I'm betting that the student loan forgiveness program will have oversight so there is not the same rampant fraud that occurred with the PPP.

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Dumb take. If they didn’t shut down businesses then PPP loans never would have existed.

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u/issofine Aug 27 '22

Who was the president when the businesses shut down? Here’s a hint, it wasn’t Biden.

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Trump didn’t shut down any businesses. The Democrat governors did. Jeebus. This is sad.

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u/issofine Aug 27 '22

Democrat governors shut down businesses in states run by republican governors then too? Explain how that nonsense is logical

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Any businesses restricted by Republicans did not have the same impact as those shutdown by Democrats. The governor of WA still has his emergency powers. Up until the beginning of this year King county was still requiring vaccine passports while states like FL and TX we’re letting businesses go back to normal. But yeah tell businesses who were shutdown to not take PPP loans 😁

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u/issofine Aug 27 '22

No problem with business taking PPP loans. But if you do decide to take out a loan, you agree to pay back your debt right? Shouldn’t be looking to daddy government for a handout

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Once again you’re being stupid. If they didn’t have to shutdown they wouldn’t have applied for PPP loans. Why is that so hard for you to understand? It’s no different from eminent domain when the government takes your property, they are required to compensate you. Why should the government be allowed to shut you down without compensating you?

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u/issofine Aug 27 '22

Can you read? I just said I got no problem with businesses taking the PPP loans. During the pandemic was a hard time on businesses. BUT if you take out a loan, you are obligated to pay that loan back. Critical thinking is a rare thing to come by in the right wing huh?

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

And the loan had forgiveness built into it. So it’s not a loan. Just call it a subsidy then. Just like when the government tells farmers not to grow their crops. The government dictated the terms of the “loan” and the businesses used them as directed.

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u/issofine Aug 27 '22

The forgiveness aspect built into it was mainly designed for payroll. Beyond that, you are expected to pay back your debt

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u/YourFreelanceWriter Aug 27 '22

That is not my point (although many businesses that took out PPP loans that were later forgiven were "essential" and did not suffer financially due to the pandemic; the amount of fraud associated with the program due to lack of oversight is astounding).

Tax payers paid for forgiven PPP loans. Tax payers will pay for student loan forgiveness. Tax payers also pay for tons of other things, such as pointless wars, and bailing out banks, Wall Street, and corporations.

It is hypocritical to be up in arms about student loan forgiveness, but have no issues with the PPP. This is especially true for people who actually took out PPP loans and had them forgiven.

In essence, they are both "government handouts".

Those crying the loudest are acting like they are going to start getting bills in the mail to "pay for other people's student loans".

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u/googinthegoogler Aug 27 '22

Yes, we were worried that the almost million dollars MGT got "forgiven" to keep her businesses open even though she was already triple dipping before we even get into loans. Disgusting.

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Can you show me the part of the PPP loans which specified that someone like her was not entitled to it so I can be outraged about it? Don’t like it? Then don’t pass it.

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u/googinthegoogler Aug 27 '22

Oh sorry I thought by small and medium sized businesses you meant those who don't triple dip into tax payers money for every possible event, and then only pay the tax payers back when caught. Thanks for teaching me.

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Don’t like it then don’t pass it. Otherwise don’t cry about it when a business owner legally uses a government programmed as designed. If you believe she’s doing something illegal then you should let the IRS know.

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u/googinthegoogler Aug 27 '22

Ah thanks, I'll use my whole states worth of empty ballots I have around the house to sway the voting, or how about this, I just donate more than the big oil guys. Seems right, right? Hey man, you got life figured out, write a book for goodness sakes.

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u/seahawkguy Aug 27 '22

Don’t like the PPP loans? Then don’t lock down businesses. Don’t lock down entire industries. Don’t blame taxpayers for using government programs as they were designed.

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u/googinthegoogler Aug 27 '22

So first it was my fault and now its the boogeymans fault? Weren't you the guy talking about responsibility. It seems like you're the last person who should use that word?