White House Lashes Out At Republicans Over Student Loan Cancellation; Conservatives Fire Back | The Daily Wire, Aug 26th, 2022 - Attempting to paint Congress Republicans as hypocrites because they took out Paycheck Protection Program (PPP) loans during the COVID pandemic, which were later forgiven.

[u/American_Streamer]

https://www.dailywire.com/news/white-house-lashes-out-at-republicans-over-student-loan-cancellation-conservatives-fire-back

[u/RedditISFascist000]

Well sure. It's totally the same thing to subsidize countless worthless degrees guaranteed to see millions of kids waiting tables who CHOSE to take out those loans. With loans designed to offset the overreaction of a gov FORCING businesses to not allow people to work. Chose and force? Totally synonymous. SMH

[u/DarthRaider523 → u/RedditISFascist000]

1) Businesses CHOSE to operate with the risk that a pandemic or regulations would affect the business. It’s not as if laws are a new idea.

2) Countless people are required by the government to get degrees in order to pursue their careers. For example, you can’t be a doctor without a degree.

[u/ddubz8722 → u/DarthRaider523]

Chose to operate instead of what shut down and have no income???

And countless people do not need a degree to pursue their career. For example a plumber or electrician which the nation currently has a massive shortage of skill trades, if u don’t want to pay then pursue something else

[u/DarthRaider523 → u/ddubz8722]

No, chose to open a business knowing that pandemics and laws can disrupt your business. If you don’t want to pay then pursue something else.

So everyone should just be plumbers? No doctors, no teachers, just toilet repairmen?

[u/ddubz8722 → u/DarthRaider523]

You do realize that despite them not being open they still have financial commitments they have to meet you make it sound like closing down is so simple and a lot of states forced them to shut down

I didn’t say that but I will say not everyone should go to University

[u/DarthRaider523 → u/ddubz8722]

I’m responding to the original person saying that students made a choice Togo to college. Businesses owners made a choice to open and operate with the ever-present risk of pandemics and disruptive laws. Part of being in a profit share is choosing to take on risk.

You did say that. It was stupid. We need degree holders. The vast majority of jobs with living wages require a degree. There’s a reason for that. This isn’t the 1700s. You can’t operate a modern economy with nothing but farmers, factory workers, and artisans. Every other country had figured this out, which is why they subsidize higher education so that it’s vastly more affordable than college in the US.

[u/ddubz8722 → u/DarthRaider523]

Please share the quote where I said that lol SMH and as much as we need degree holders we need skill trades you need balance so no not everyone should go to university some people should go to trades school or community college… could you share your source where for the “majority of jobs require degrees”? Because that is wrong. Why do you look down on any other post secondary education that isn’t university?

[u/DarthRaider523 → u/ddubz8722]

You can get federal loans for community college and trade school. So your comment boils down to complaining that there aren’t more unskilled laborers.

https://truthout.org/articles/75-of-new-jobs-require-a-degree-while-only-40-of-potential-applicants-have-one/?amp

[u/ddubz8722 → u/DarthRaider523]

So the government already pays for post secondary education so there are plenty of affordable options for people so if you decide to take the loan knowing the outcome so you can go to university then you should have to pay for it it’s that simple and I’m not complaining that there aren’t enough skilled trade that is fact and another fact skilled trades pay more than what a typical degree holder will make

[u/DarthRaider523 → u/ddubz8722]

The government doesn’t pay for it, they give out loans.

Would you say the same thing for business owners? There are less risky ways to make money like becoming a salaried employee, therefore we shouldn’t forgive PPE loans.

[u/ddubz8722 → u/DarthRaider523]

They were FORCED to close they did not chose to so they should receive funding

If you chose to go to university tans you take a federal loan to pay for it then you understand the contract

Would you say the government should give everyone with a current mortgage 10,000 doesn’t matter if you already paid one off and doesn’t matter if you decided to rent it only counts for current mortgage holders would you be okay with that?