r/benshapiro • u/Acceptable-World-623 • Jul 31 '22

The moment this transgender debate got heated Ben Shapiro

“Well that was just mildly inappropriate” & “That’s not very lady like” These comments by Shapiro just make me laugh 🤣 yes I know this is old news

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

Biology 101 has entered the chat

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

Men can not become women. Women can not become men. The sooner your make peace with these basic facts of life, the better you’ll feel. Have a great rest of your day, friend.

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

Appeal to authority is a logical fallacy. My statement stands factually on its own.

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u/[deleted] Aug 01 '22

"I know more than the experts that devoted their life to study this science because it's so simple even someone without an education can see my point is right" is also a fallacy.

Pretty sure it's the Dunning–Kruger effect, but I'm not an expert on philosophy.

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

Putting words in my mouth is a disingenuous method of argument.

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u/Fortunoxious Aug 01 '22

It is an objective fact that you think you know more than the people that have devoted their life to calculating how gender functions in the social sphere.

C’mon, you know you’re ignoring an entire field of research by sticking to a simpleton’s idea of what gender is.

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u/GodisHoly7 Aug 01 '22

Thats because theirs only 2 genders man, 100 years from now if they where to look at your bones to find out what you where there no doubt it will say either male or female, its something that cant be changed physically with surgery or feelings. Biologically their is only male and female and thats decided in the womb.

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u/Fortunoxious Aug 01 '22

Cool, just ignore everything I say and repeat the same tired argument as if you’re talking to a child and not someone who is much more familiar with the field we are discussing than you are.

100 years from now they can look at my bones to determine my SEX. If they look through documentation about me, they could determine my gender.

It’s not that complicated! idk why y’all are so outrageously dense. We aren’t solo cavemen, we live in a society, and social phenomena are important. You’re just hand waving the science of studying that phenomena away because you FEEL like it.

Facts don’t care about your feelings: we are factually more than biology and the rest of the world is waiting patiently for y’all to understand how ignorant you sound.

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u/GodisHoly7 Aug 02 '22

You are arguing with biology bro and that does not change with society, just because there are people that think gender is different than sex it doesn’t make it a fact. People that think gender is different than sex are just holding a delusional idea of something that will never come to happen… biologically everyone has hair… cant change it to hay or to seaweed… will always be hair

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u/GodisHoly7 Aug 02 '22

You are arguing with biology bro and that does not change with society, just because there are people that think gender is different than sex it doesn’t make it a fact. People that think gender is different than sex are just holding a delusional idea of something that will never come to happen… biologically everyone has hair… cant change it to hay or to seaweed… will always be hair

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u/Fortunoxious Aug 02 '22

I am not arguing with biology, but of course that’s the way you see it. I’m just mentally capable of separating social phenomena from physical states. But who am I kidding, you’re not paying attention to what I’m saying, just like every other NPC here. You all go off with the same tired shit ben says in the video while completing ignoring everything I say. Literally like NPCs.

I’m glad you bring up hair though.

Red hair : physical state, like sex

Ginger: a social identity, like gender

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

Gender and sex are not disconnected, nor are they malleable. Any male/female who is under the delusion of being the opposite sex is suffering from a mental condition and deserves the best help society has to offer.

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u/Fortunoxious Aug 01 '22

The only reason that they aren’t disconnected is because people like you are desperate to maintain societal norms. That’s a fantasy. We don’t live in the wilderness, we have a society, and in that society our biology exists under deep layers of social programming.

The real delusion is that genders should match the junk of the person. Why? Just because?

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

The only fantasy in this discussion is the delusion that men can become women and women can become men. Your chromosomes determine your sex/gender and no amount of mental gymnastics, surgery, or bureaucracy will ever change that.

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u/Fortunoxious Aug 01 '22

Sigh, it determines sex, not gender.

All you’re showing is that you lack the mental capacity to differentiate between a social phenomena and a physical condition.

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u/LenTrexlersLettuce Aug 01 '22

Feminine men and masculine women have existed for all of humanity. It doesn’t mean they’ve magically switched genders. It’s not possible. It never will be possible. These people are mentally ill and need help.

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