Ben Shapiro vs. Sam Harris on Trump

[u/narcabusesurvivor18]

https://youtu.be/cTnV5RfhIjk?feature=shared

To me, what sticks out in this debate is how quickly Sam changes standards with how he looks at the actions of politicians. When it’s a Democrat, he treats what they say/do as mostly unimportant, unserious, etc. but when it’s Trump it’s super important, serious, etc. It’s what Ben pointed out multiple times; the actual policy and comparing actions vs words matters more. But even the rhetoric itself, Sam changes standards. When Hillary denies the results of the 2016 election, (and launders the Russiagate lies) that’s just water under the bridge. Trump denying the election results in 2020 and then leaving office, that’s the end of the world. It bothered me quite a bit how Sam’s standards seem to change so radically but for no solid reason.

[u/jcmiller210]

Sam gave me second hand embarrassment every time his defense of all the shitty things Democrats have done or said were either BuT tRUuMp iS WOrSe or iTs (D)ifFReNT. What an intellectually dishonest man.

[u/uusrikas → u/jcmiller210]

When it is a binary choice of A or B it is totally valid to pick the least bad candidate 

[u/jcmiller210 → u/uusrikas]

That would be fine if he could actually distinguish which one was actually worse than the other, but like many on th left he has TDS and as a result, doesn't care about open borders, high inflation, terrible and weak foreign policy that's plunging the world into a potential WW3 scenario, and the underlying threat Democrats pose to our institutions and constitutional rights. Blind to it all because Trump mean and bad.

[u/McClain3000 → u/jcmiller210]

Your are so confused.

First you use this very common argument, that all they do is bash Trump they actually don't support Kamala or say how she would be better. They this time is Sam.

Focusing on Trump is a perfectly valid argument. If I had to select a babysitter and my choice was binary... And one of the babysitters was a heroin-addict and thief. It would be sensible to frame the other babysitter as better for simply being not a heroin addict, and a kleptomaniac. You could talk about how the other babysitter had good references, was kind, and responsible but really not being a heroin addict, and a kleptomaniac is the most relevant reason.

Trump denies elections, commits crime, proposes deporting millions of people, proposes record high tariffs. Both the status quo and Kamala's proposed policies, on all these topics, are preferable. Is that difficult to understand?

doesn't care about open borders, high inflation, terrible and weak foreign policy that's plunging the world into a potential WW3 scenario, and the underlying threat Democrats pose to our institutions and constitutional rights. Blind to it all because Trump mean and bad.

Again it's not blind because Trumps bad. Trumps proposed solution to all these things are worse. Trumps plan for the border is worse than the bi-partisan border bill that was proposed under Biden and Harris.

Inflation is now down because Biden let the Fed do it's own thing. Trumps proposes tariffs and all economists say this will cause inflation to sky-rocket.

Trump simps for dictators and abandons American allies. The status quo is better than Trump. All of Trump's generals say that Trump is unfit and dangerous, Sam brought this up. Also it's odd that you think Sam doesn't care about this topic. He frequently speaks to world renown experts on foreign policy on his Podcast.

Trump and Vance are the only people on the ticket who have either violated the constitution or promise to do so.