r/benshapiro • u/normisntdeadbut • Jul 26 '24

I'm very worried about this election. Discussion/Debate

I've never seen the media engage in such blatant propagandizing before. Despite Kamala Harris being a weak candidate, I can easily see Trump losing this election. I have no faith that Trump won't make this election about himself, just as he did in 2020. In fact, as Ben frequently points out, it's very likely that he will turn this into a referendum on himself.

In my community, which is predominantly evangelical and socially conservative, many people despise Trump. While a number of them do vote GOP, many others vote Democrat, for various reasons besides Trump. However, a significant portion will never vote for him because they intensely dislike his character and personality.

I've never been a fan of Trump, even though I voted for him. He makes it extremely difficult for certain conservative and moderate communities to support him. Part of me even hopes Kamala wins, so we can move past Trump. If that happens, maybe conservatives will turn the page and start fielding better candidates who aren't RINOs or populists. It's just a huge mess.

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u/jcmiller210 Aug 02 '24

Depends on the election results. If she barely wins, she'll be a lame duck president much like Biden not being able to accomplish much of their agenda, or if they win in a landslide all the things I mentioned will be on the table, so pretty harmful stuff.

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u/lobsterharmonica1667 Aug 02 '24

Even if she wins in a landslide she wont have 60 senators. So unless you consider her to be some sort of political mastermind, what are some realistic and disastrous scenarios?

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u/jcmiller210 Aug 02 '24

Haven't Democrats for years been threatening to end that rule though? The only thing that really stops them from doing it to my understanding is that it will give Republicans the same power if they end up in office over them.

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u/lobsterharmonica1667 Aug 02 '24

Haven't Democrats for years been threatening to end that rule though?

No. Neither the DNC or any other prominent democrats have made such a statement to my knowledge, also they could have done it in 2021 if they actually wanted to. Furthermore, republicans do not need the democrats to do it first.

So ill ask again, what is a realistic yet disastrous thing that you think a Harris administration would do?

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u/jcmiller210 Aug 02 '24

This article says both sides have been threatening to do this, so even this rule may not be able to protect against a slight Kamala / Democrat majority to push their agenda through unchecked.

If you love open borders, inflation, the Green New Deal, and an introduction to socialism / potentially even communism, that's all going to be on the menu with a Kamala victory.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/democrats-gear-overhaul-senate-filibuster-major-bills-win-2024-rcna152484

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u/lobsterharmonica1667 Aug 02 '24 edited Aug 02 '24

If you love open borders

Idk about love, but im not bothered by the current levels of immigration

inflation,

i got a $700k mortgage, inflation is my best frienf.

the Green New Deal

Depends of the specifics but im directionally in favor

and an introduction to socialism / potentially even communism

Lol what does this even mean?