r/benshapiro • u/GrizzlyPeakFinancial • Mar 04 '24

Genuinely interested what everyone's thoughts are? Discussion Other Daily Wire Members

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It’s immoral. Creating human lives that are frozen in time / end up being disposed of is wrong. Not to mention the hormonal and medical toll on women’s bodies , the long term effects of which are still relatively unknown

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u/Lemonbrick_64 Mar 04 '24

So helping create a beautiful family that otherwise could not have naturally conceived a child and started a family… is immoral in your eyes… nice logic

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u/added_value_diamo Mar 04 '24

It is because in the process, other innocent human lives are conceived and thrown away. I empathize with women who have infertility issues totally. I have endometriosis myself. But IVF causes the creation and destruction of life… there are other ways like adoption.

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u/DingbattheGreat Mar 04 '24

You are saying it yourself but completely missing it.

You oppose "disposing of" humans.

IVF and surrogacy is not a system of intentionally destroying humans. We already have a name for that. Genocide.

Medical procedures, on the other hand, are much more nuanced and strictly procedural.

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u/Jefftopia Mar 04 '24

the embryonic destruction is not the intention of the parents but it is certainly the intention of the medical professional. Wanting to take part in a good thing isn’t justified when something morally evil takes place alongside it.

I do agree that conservatives can reasonably disagree here and keep moving.

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u/added_value_diamo Mar 04 '24

It’s not the intent of these families to destroy human lives, but it’s what happens as a result of IVF. Not to mention the extreme toll it takes on a woman’s body physically / hormonally

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u/douchecanoetwenty2 Mar 04 '24

I hope you support abortion in cases where the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, since you seem to care about the toll being taken on her body.

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u/added_value_diamo Mar 05 '24

No, I never support killing a child . And as a woman who had a friend go through IVF and saw how it affected her, I also care about what women go through in these situations

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u/douchecanoetwenty2 Mar 05 '24

Except you don’t, you said it loud and clear right there. You would choose the child over the mother. What if the child has no chance to survive and will most likely die upon birth, usually a circumstance that’s a clear threat to the mother?

You don’t care about women.

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u/added_value_diamo Mar 05 '24

I am literally a woman

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u/douchecanoetwenty2 Mar 06 '24

You can still be a misogynist.

Edit: in fact you’re the worst kind because you hide behind the fact that your anatomy aligns.