r/benshapiro Aug 29 '23

On The Issue Of Abortion Ben Shapiro Discussion/critique

The Democrats keep saying they don’t support abortion up until birth. They do. Evidence of this is in the bill they proposed in the Senate that every Democrat except Sinema voted for in May of last year.

Both the general rule and section 9 are important to pay attention to:

(a) General Rule.—A health care provider has a statutory right under this Act to provide abortion services, and may provide abortion services, and that provider’s patient has a corresponding right to receive such services, without any of the following limitations or requirements:

The above means that section 9 is completely legal

(9) A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient’s life or health.

I italicized text to empathize. The term after fetal viability means after the baby can survive on its own outside of the womb - in laymen’s terms this means when it can be born and we can keep it alive. The term health is undefined. What this section means is that even if the baby is able to be birthed and survive, if the mother’s health is at risk it can be aborted. The term health is specifically ambiguous so to include mental health (so if you’re depressed from the baby, you get to abort) and it also doesn’t address what kind of health if it’s physical health so to encompass as many reasons for an abortion as possible without being able to question the legitimacy of the need. Again, there is no limitation on the progress of the pregnancy as noted in the term after fetal viability. That means up to 39 weeks.

There are other provisions in the bill that are also egregious in their own way, but this is the section that supports a 39 week abortion. It’s thinly veiled to act like it’s merely a women’s health issue but is actually a clause to let health care providers perform an abortion for virtually any reason.

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u/TheIllustriousWe Aug 30 '23

I really don’t care about your opinions of the Democratic Party. They mean nothing when you won’t accept easily provable facts. You might as well be trying to convince me that the moon is made of cheese.

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u/thekux Aug 30 '23

Still can’t describe a woman is. I already gave my facts.

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u/TheIllustriousWe Aug 30 '23

You haven’t given anything except your opinions. You’re right that abortion bans are being passed, but you are wrong about the reasons why. It’s not because most women are pro-life, because that is clearly not true.

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u/thekux Aug 30 '23

I don’t have an opinion it’s a fact abortion bans have passed. And there’s gonna be more. Democracy is great. Democrats have attacked women and there’s no getting around that. You can’t describe what a woman is. You believe that a woman is a bigot if she doesn’t want to stand next to us, man with his junk hanging out in the locker room. That’s what the left stands for in addition to abortion at any time for any reason

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u/TheIllustriousWe Aug 30 '23

Just because you demand I define what a woman is for you does not mean I have any interest in doing so. It’s a pointless task when it’s demanded by someone who can’t even admit when they’re wrong.

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u/thekux Aug 31 '23

I’m not wrong, because the abortion bans are passing all over the country. Democrats attack women they don’t believe in a naturally born woman is a woman. As I’ve explained earlier, the Democrats are attacking women.

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u/TheIllustriousWe Aug 31 '23

You are wrong in claiming that most women are pro-life, and that most men are pro-choice. The evidence shows the opposite is true for both.