On The Issue Of Abortion

[u/FeaturingYou]

The Democrats keep saying they don’t support abortion up until birth. They do. Evidence of this is in the bill they proposed in the Senate that every Democrat except Sinema voted for in May of last year.

Both the general rule and section 9 are important to pay attention to:

(a) General Rule.—A health care provider has a statutory right under this Act to provide abortion services, and may provide abortion services, and that provider’s patient has a corresponding right to receive such services, without any of the following limitations or requirements:

The above means that section 9 is completely legal

(9) A prohibition on abortion after fetal viability when, in the good-faith medical judgment of the treating health care provider, continuation of the pregnancy would pose a risk to the pregnant patient’s life or health.

I italicized text to empathize. The term after fetal viability means after the baby can survive on its own outside of the womb - in laymen’s terms this means when it can be born and we can keep it alive. The term health is undefined. What this section means is that even if the baby is able to be birthed and survive, if the mother’s health is at risk it can be aborted. The term health is specifically ambiguous so to include mental health (so if you’re depressed from the baby, you get to abort) and it also doesn’t address what kind of health if it’s physical health so to encompass as many reasons for an abortion as possible without being able to question the legitimacy of the need. Again, there is no limitation on the progress of the pregnancy as noted in the term after fetal viability. That means up to 39 weeks.

There are other provisions in the bill that are also egregious in their own way, but this is the section that supports a 39 week abortion. It’s thinly veiled to act like it’s merely a women’s health issue but is actually a clause to let health care providers perform an abortion for virtually any reason.

[u/FeaturingYou]

Hahahaha “health is a well known definition”. They specify definitions in legal documents so they can’t be interpreted. That’s why there are definitions in this document.

You either didn’t read this document or don’t understand the outline or both.

[u/Nemisis82 → u/FeaturingYou]

Feel free to refute what I said. You took one piece and responded to that in a pretty poor way and ignored the rest. They do not define every single word used in a bill. Also, I acknowledged that I do not believe that politicians should even be defining what health is, as that can and has changed over time and will continue to do so. Politicians should not define health, physicians should. Agreed?

Please, feel free to point out any point in the text of the bill where it says that abortion is allowed up to birth for any reason whatsoever.

[u/FeaturingYou → u/Nemisis82]

You aren’t offering anything I haven’t already explained and I don’t want to rehash what I’ve already said because you’re either deliberately and stubbornly misinterpreting my explanation or ignoring it entirely. I’m not entertaining this conversation since I don’t see it going anywhere productive and it’s frustrating repeating myself. You can have the last word, my part in this conversation is over.

[u/Nemisis82 → u/FeaturingYou]

Ah, so you can't. Got it. And here I was earlier in this thread thinking you were acting in good faith. This sub just cannot produce anything in good faith, it's hilarious.