r/UFOs • u/Infinite-God • Sep 26 '18
Aliens and UFOs are most likely interdimensional (coming from other dimensions) rather than coming from outer space speculation
This makes the most sense to me that they’re actually coming from other dimensions (like the astral) or other realities rather than from outer space.
Part of the reason is because they tend to show up randomly and disappear randomly as well. Also when people have experiences with them they seem paranormal. Of course it does. Because you’re literally shifting to another dimension.
Also this sounds very similar to experiences with ghosts, Bigfoot, etc. they’re all shifting in and out of this reality (from the astral I think). Dead people aren’t actually dead. They’re just in another reality.
Another thing is how would these UFOs go far out in space? That would take billions of years. It makes sense that they’re interdimensional instead.
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u/CharlesBronsonsaurus Sep 26 '18
The demons of yesterday are the aliens of today.
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u/moderate-painting Sep 26 '18
Signs the movie had that!
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u/CharlesBronsonsaurus Sep 26 '18
Did they? I forget honestly. It's an idea I've had for quite sometime. Now I want to watch the movie. It's been awhile.
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u/APensiveMonkey Sep 26 '18
There's one theory that's been posited by a few "qualified sources" that the Greys are just dolls or drones that are inhabited by Extra Dimensional Entities that are essentially disembodied conscious beings. The Greys are just their way of interacting with our 4D existence on a physical level. Like a tool.
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u/Infinite-God Sep 26 '18
Interesting. I’ve heard something like that before. Something about them being fake aliens or they’re kinda like robots or biological skin suits, similar to what you said
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u/APensiveMonkey Sep 26 '18
Exactly; non biological robots that are being remotely controlled by Extra Dimensional (biological? Formerly biological? Biologically transcended?) beings. But IF we assume this is true, would the controlling beings need to be in proximity or could they be doing remotely across galaxies? I can't wrap my head around those questions
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
If you go with the OPs theory they could be right on top of you but just in higher dimensions.
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
I've heard the theory that the greys are just drones before. But not controlled by consciousness from another dimension, but from the taller Nords or the skinny skinwalker types.
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u/zungozeng Sep 26 '18
Let's first go back and actually see if greys and aliens exist, before we start fantasizing, shall we?
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u/APensiveMonkey Sep 26 '18
Are you sure you're in the right place? This whole thread is speculative by nature.
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u/Manly_Manspreader Sep 26 '18
Or they are machines who have become self-aware, yet do not possess souls that true biological entities like us do. They are experimenting on us so that they can try to figure out how they can become containers for souls, but it just may not be possible.
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u/isisishtar Sep 26 '18
Maybe they have a way of bending light around their vehicles, so that to us they seem invisible.
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Sep 26 '18 edited Apr 16 '19
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u/NightsAtTheQ Sep 26 '18
iPhones and wifi would be considered magic to our own civilization as recently as 100 years ago... probably even less.
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u/shadowofashadow Sep 26 '18
Yeah and imagine trying to explain a phone to someone who barely understands electricity. It's hard to explain a complex concept when they can barely grasp the basics.
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u/OnaPaleHorse80 Sep 26 '18
Wasn't the actual quote "...from nature"? You're point is still valid, I just believe it was "nature," not "magic"
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
The person who coined the phrase (Arthur C Clarke) said magic.. Some other bloke later on took that and modified it to nature
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u/Dwayne_dibbly Sep 26 '18
Imagine turning up in victorian England with a bic lighter. You would be called a witch.
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
If you kick it, it will still hit. If you put it in a cloud, you'd see it displace the cloud. You'd see radiation either being emitted or missing in other wavelengths.
A cloaking device from say Star Trek is a lot more than just about visible light.
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u/fxkenshi Sep 26 '18
That's a possibility or maybe they're in another spectrum of light. All our senses are limited. But that's why we have technology to expand our human capabilities. I.e. sensors sensible to infrared and computers that translate it to our color palette. I'm no expert at all but I would encorage this community to search beyond our limits using the available tech: watch the skies with different light/rf sensors, "listening" to imperceptible frequencies then analyse it with a DAW (I bet we could find some crazy psychophonies). I agree with OP about beings from other dimensions. If you guys have the chance to learn about multidimensional geometry you'd be mind-blown. We're also limited to perceive 3 dimensions. Sorry I wrote too much.
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u/Rickenbacker69 Sep 26 '18
There's only one electromagnetic spectrum, though. But yeah, it's possible that you could somehow bend radiation around you to become "invisible" in all wavelenghts.
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u/fxkenshi Sep 26 '18
You're right. I was separating the EM spectrum into light (visible and closer wavelengths) and sound (hearable and closer).
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u/mutually_awkward Sep 26 '18
I'm not shooting down this theory but how is jumping between universes more plausible to you than traveling from deep space? Both require advanced technology way ahead of our comprehension.
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u/onlyamiga500 Sep 26 '18
Also, we have no evidence that other dimensions even exist as a place that can be navigated to/from, whereas we know for sure that other stars exist and they can be navigated to/from, albeit very slowly with current technology.
The extraterrestrial hypothesis is far more likely to be correct than the interdimensional hypothesis as the former relies on interstellar travel, which we know is possible, whereas interdimensional travel is not even known to exist, let alone be possible.
It's a bit like hearing galloping hooves and debating whether you've just heard a horse or a unicorn. Sure, it could have been a unicorn, but it's much more likely to be a horse, because at least we know for sure that horses exist.
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u/Paranormal_Paul Nov 09 '18
Don't get me wrong, I'm a very skeptical person. However, it's very important to apply healthy skepticism. Sure, the public doesn't have evidence that other dimensions are a place that can be navigated to/from but we are in our infancy in studying other dimensions scientifically. Also, absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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u/onlyamiga500 Nov 09 '18
Definitely. It's nice to hear from other skeptical folks in a UFO subreddit! :) I definitely wouldn't write off an interdimensional explanation for UFOs, I was just trying to work out what is most likely. It's possible that there are multiple causes for UFOs, including interplanetary travellers, interdimensional travellers, or even paranormal or metaphysical explanations (eg angels and demons..!).
I wonder what would happen if we made first contact with an extraterrestrial and they said, "yep we're the guys with the saucers. We've got no idea what those flying triangles are though!!" :)
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u/jigga2000 Sep 26 '18
A "dimension" is an arbitrary attribute that is assigned to a thing, anything. It is not a location unto itself. YOU are an "interdimesional being" in the sense that you can choose to move in 2 axes, without much difficulty, a 3rd with some physical assistance, or a tiny bit by jumping, and have no choice but to move forward in the temporal dimension. If we are only talking about "spacetime"... as we know it... and not to mention the fact you are on a celestial body, orbiting a celestial body, orbiting... etc...
The dimensions of space and time are just the fundamental attributes required to know where/when something is. Other dimensions, height, width, depth, weight, color... are required to know more about a thing.
If I were to describe "something" coming from "somewhere we can't describe", I might choose "layer of reality" or maybe "another plane of existence"... I really don't know, but "dimension" irks me, sorry.
I don't come from a science or physics background, either, don't mean to sound pedantic. I work in retail software, and dimensions are used a lot and mean a lot of things.
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u/aasteveo Sep 26 '18
It's best explained by Carl Sagan, when he says dimension he literally means the dimensions length/width/height. But if something has 4 dimensions or 5 dimensions we would not be able to see them completely, only slices of them in the 3 dimensions we exist in, and only if/when they step into our dimensions. So they might look like a flat circle like the slice of the apple in the video. We can't completely see their entire shape because they have more dimensions than us. It would be easy for them to step back and forth into our 3d dimension, and might be easy for them to avoid our 3 dimensions, but we would be unable to see anything that is outside our 3 dimensions and into their 4th. So "dimension" is not a place you have to travel to, to them it's simply stepping left or right wherever they are along a plane that we can't experience.
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u/jigga2000 Sep 26 '18 edited Sep 26 '18
Yep. Flatland was very entertaining and informative for a layman, such as myself. A tesseract will forever bend my mind.
I can't argue with Carl Sagan, or anybody with a couple days into college level physics.
I don't think Flatland was anything more than a "thought experiment". As far as I have read, there is no evidence of any extra spatial dimensions and any theory of 3+ spatial dimensions are described as subatomic.
All in all irrelevant to my complaint. If you had to move in a direction that we can't point to, that dimension is still not a place.
Like when people in the US describe them self from the North or the South. That is one dimension, but not one place. We know what that means through arbitrary assignment, but north and south are one dimension on a two dimensional system of a map.
I completely accept that something can exist outside of my awareness. It can exist in a direction I cannot point to. Again, maybe it's simply semantic, but dimension is not the word that should be used.
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u/Rickenbacker69 Sep 26 '18
Right, this exactly. "Energy" and "dimensions" are the two most misused words on the internet.
For reference, energy is potential work. If you can't replace the word energy by the words potential work, you're not using the word right. And none of the crystal crazies are :).
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
weight and colour are only dimensions in the English sense of the word, not the space-time meaning of the word used by the OP.
x,y,z are spatial dimensions and time and a temporal one. Einstein and others have calculated there's up to 11 dimensions, but many are tiny and looped.
Physicists use the term "dimensions" all the time. (pun intended)
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u/ehll_oh_ehll Sep 26 '18
If you won't mean me asking what do you mean by the dimensions looped also what do you mean by tiny? No trying to be pedantic just don't understand
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
I wish I could give you a good description about them more than that, but I don't have that information in my head.
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u/Johnnybxd Sep 26 '18
I was going to say the same, it's not that others are from other dimensions, it's that they can perceive more than we can. We are a species that evolved to move through three dimensions and perceive time as linear.
If anything I would say that they were from a parallel universe which would make a bit more sense because they technically wouldn't have to travel large distances but breakthrough into our universe if they come from an alternate Earth.
Granted their planet is also orbiting a star and is moving in their space time, and their universe, so I guess it would be pretty difficult to figure out when both Earths lineup, for lack of a better term.
I mean we don't know everything. For me personally I think UFOs by and large are government experiments, not just by the US government, but by all different governments. Just experimental aircraft or drones.
And for the real big tinfoil-hat people out there, perhaps everything that everyone has ever thought of is actually true and every government is just a construct. There really is one world government ruled by aliens and humans are just going about their daily jobs here on the planet, while the higher-ups are in communication with these higher beings... but I doubt it.
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u/Darth_Vorador Sep 26 '18
Yeah I think that's likely. People here are saying space travel is equally plausible but they're missing the point. The interdimensional theory isn't about explaining just HOW they get here. It's about explaining the description and accounts of how these vehicles and beings seemingly operate. UFOs popping in and out of view, UFOs disappearing into the sea and mountains, beings abducting people through walls and doing so with people living in apartments in major cities. It seems to suggest they operate on another dimension.
Then factor in the religions and spiritual accounts of the world, depictions of gods, world mythology, the occult, shamanism, the ubiquity of human sacrifice in the ancient world. These topics connect to modern alien/UFO accounts.
There's also the possibility that both space travel and interdimensional travel are occurring.
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u/Infinite-God Sep 26 '18
That’s exactly what I’m trying to say. And everyone wants to get all scientific like they have a degree in physics or something. The interdimensional theory just makes the most sense
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Sep 26 '18
This makes the most sense to me that they’re actually coming from other dimensions (like the astral) or other realities rather than from outer space.
Part of the reason is because they tend to show up randomly and disappear randomly as well.
During a solar eclipse, the sun overlaps the moon. They look the same size, does that mean it's the same size just because you perceive it that way? Obviously no.
So, you say that because they appear (seemingly) randomly must mean that they are interdimensional beings. I would disagree with you there, as they could also be 3rd-dimensional beings with much, much more advanced technology.
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Sep 26 '18
It is plausible that UFOs are merely camera devices cataloging millions of planets, collecting data, and leaving never to come back. From whom no one knows.
Faster than light technology from distant planet, dimension, or plane of existence.
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u/MaceMan2091 Sep 26 '18
What's more plausible is that they're ancient creatures that figured it out before humanity.
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u/majicebe Sep 26 '18
I think that's a pretty big leap. Going from there are UFOs that we don't know where they come from to there being a multiverse, and then assuming the physics of those other dimensions are similar enough to our own that life arises, then that life finds a way to detect other dimensions, and then a method to travel there... that's a bit much.
Could there be a multiverse? Sure. But I don't think your theory is any more likely than FTL travel. Heck, maybe it's not faster than light, but just really fast and maybe it does take years for probes or aliens or whatever to get here. Every UFO we've recorded could just be a robotic probe that was sent hundreds of years ago to scout Earth as a planet that's in the Goldilocks zone of our star, and maybe the UFO is just conducting its scans and reporting back.
It's also possible UFOs are just black projects by governments. All of those seem more likely than extra-dimensional explorers, but it's anybody's guess at this point.
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u/Usagii_YO Sep 26 '18
I think that if you’re able to travel crazy distances throughout space, that traveling between them, will make you inter-dimensional by default.
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
Over the last say 5 years ago I've slowly started to come to that conclusion for a few reasons.
The speed of light cannot be breached according to physics and you'd need to be able to travel orders of magnitude faster.
UFO ship sightings seem to visually be ethereal at times as if pure energy or moving through dimensional portoles.
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u/ghostghastgoblin Sep 26 '18
Fuck's sake. Aliens are demons, Saturn is Satan, Aliens are future humans. It just gets insane. After the golden age of the late 90s ufology lost its mind. Why interdimensional and not extradimensional? Do you know the difference? Why is space travel so difficult to consider? Just because a bunch of theorists can't imagine the bending of space-time with our current level of technology so therefore its unlikely or impossible for everyone else? Glad true innovators don't listen to theorists. Why is it not both? Why can't there be extraterrestrials and other dimensional? If we have an infinate universe of infinate possibility then all probability is all possibility.
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u/Kanyeezy96 Sep 26 '18
No wonder the gvt’s so hard on marijuana and hallucinogens. They’d give us a look at different dimensions and a more profound look at how life really is
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u/Infinite-God Sep 26 '18
Same reason why they don’t talk about astral projection as well
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u/NightsAtTheQ Sep 26 '18
They call them hallucinogens. I tend to believe we're actually just more tuned in and can pick up on more frequencies (or dimensions) than we can in a sober state. Psychedelics... IRL cheat codes.
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u/dirmer3 Sep 26 '18
No its because they wanted to arrest all blacks, mexicans and hippies but they couldn't just make being black, Mexican or hippie a crime, so they outlawed the drugs. Boom, full prisons with the elements of society you find threatening. Then the whole CIA and cocaine smuggling and distribution to the inner city through Rick Ross, etc.
Drugs were banned on racists principals like, "It makes black men rape white women" and other heinous shit like that. Harry Anslinger is a fucking evil, evil person.
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u/Yongle_Emperor Sep 26 '18
I’ve been leaning to this theory for awhile now too. Just read up on the ski walker ranch which give more credibility to this phenomenon. Maybe all those creatures from antiquity and so-called “gods” were from another “realm” so to speak or dimension.
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u/armassusi Sep 26 '18
Heres one guy really tearing into this hypothesis.
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u/Rickenbacker69 Sep 26 '18
That's actually a very well thought out post, that explains this in a logical and concise manner. I like it!
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u/Zeno_of_Citium Sep 26 '18
Absolutely. Those who disagree with this, and they all appear to have materialised in this thread, will say there's no proof for extra dimensions and this is delusional.
If you accept that UFO's exist and are not all misidentifications or natural phenomena then you must accept that they have to come from somewhere. That somewhere is either far, far away which raises problems in travel or they come from 'next door' which raises other problems.
Either way there's a problem and we need to work out a solution otherwise it's just arguing back and forth.
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Sep 26 '18
Yes thete is a lot of truth to this i belive. Have seen them myself go in and out of our existence.
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Sep 26 '18
To paraphrase the late, great Jim Marrs: "Are they extraterrestrials, time travellers, beings from another dimension, an as of yet unknown species from earth itself, terrestrial secret projects, or perhaps figments of the human collective unconscious? The simple answer is, yes."
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u/justo316 Sep 26 '18
My mind is blown enough trying to conceptualize an imaginary 2 dimensional being that is then exposed to the 3 dimensional world we take for granted.
I can't even begin to imagine what a 4th dimensional world and its occupants would be like.
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u/GoggyMagogger Sep 26 '18
I prefer the "inter-dimensional" explination rather than deep space travellers... if there's any truth to alien existence at all (I retain a healthy amount of skepticism with regard to ALL things)
It might also explain their interest in us, namely "how can we NOT traverse dimensions?" also the incredibly mercurial nature of their supposed visitations.
its weird, almost any rational adult you ask will allow for at least the possibility of extra-terrestrial/inter-dimensional life, but the same people almost unanimously do not believe in stories of alien abduction/encounter. I've never met a credible witness, and even those guys tend to believe all the other "abductees" are lying/delusional.
maybe one day we will all find out the truth. until then its just cool shower thoughts for me.
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u/RetroClassic Sep 26 '18
Your conclusion is barely supported by any actual evidence at all and is lacking any scientific basis. First off it is perfectly possible to go far enough into space without time being a factor if you have warp technology, which is mathematically feasible. What a warp drive would do is bend the space in front of you so that the distance is far less. Warp Drives would do this likely in short burst, this could easily explain why they disappear and reappear very quickly, our eyes cannot tell because its not even necessarily speed its more like if you took the entire universe and moved it while the vehicle is sitting place not moving with everything else. It can be difficult to wrap your head around but it is scientifically possible and was proven mathematically by Physicist Miguel Alcubierre.
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u/187ninjuh Sep 26 '18
You know, I have had a very similar thought my whole life.
You might find this interesting if you haven't come across it yet.
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Sep 26 '18
Dead people aren’t actually dead they are just in another reality.
Disagree with this. Death is the same thing as before you were born. And we were not in a different reality before we were born. Your brain function ceases to exist. I think its that simple.
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u/TuxedoBabyJesus Sep 26 '18
Best way I’ve heard this described - Aliens aren’t coming out of space, they’re from out of time.
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u/xDISONEx Sep 26 '18
I 100% disagree. I would be ignorant to say we as humans are the only thing in this universe an or galaxy or even other universes an galaxies that aren’t of our own. Who’s to say that these other worldly beings aren’t 1000’s of years ahead of us an their tech is waaaaayyyyyy more advanced than ours. They’ve figured space travel out. We haven’t.
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u/crack-a-lacking Sep 26 '18
I thinking bending space and time to get from one part of the universe to the other IS interdimensional travel.
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u/RoberSoul77 Sep 26 '18
I agree. I guess you have read Jacques Vallee and John Keel but if you haven't, please do. They both propose what you are saying, Vallee from a sober, scientific point of view, and Keel from a more "pulp" perspective. My favorites from them are "Passport to Magonia" and "Messengers of Deception" (Vallee) and "Operation Trojan Horse" (Keel).
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u/graysond Sep 26 '18
Do you have proof of other dimensions? No...So this is complete speculation. The most logical conclusion is the concept of life evolving on other planets in a universe which holds planets much older than our own. We are very young in terms of the universe.
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u/Apposl Sep 26 '18
Likely already mentioned but I haven't read through all 200+ comments yet - check out Jacques Vallee's books, he speculates on this fairly often and they're great reads.
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u/Psychojoker420 Sep 26 '18
I've seen this statement on edge of wonders YouTube channel they talked to a former FBI agent who basically said the same exact shit ...
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u/ZombieJesusaves Sep 26 '18
I actually totally believe this. I will take it one step further and say most paranormal phenomena is probably similar. I don’t really think these things are UFOs or craft of any kind. We see something and our minds represent it as something which makes the most sense at that time. If you were in a cave it might be Bigfoot. In an old house? Maybe you see a ghost. Looking at the sky? A UFO. I think they are a just something outside our reality pressing up against our reality and our brains don’t have a point of reference so they become the closest familiar paranormal object our feeble intellect can cling to.
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u/elboogie7 Sep 26 '18
I think that maybe some ghostly experiences are actually alien in nature.
There's claims they can bend time and space, that they can shrink to the size of a grain of sand. That means they can literally go anywhere they want, undetected.
And then if they're somehow seen, like you mentioned OP, people automatically think paranormal. Makes sense, but obviously pure speculation,
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u/Infinite-God Sep 27 '18
Yeah I noticed a lot of hate on this post and people who seem really stuck on their beliefs. Like people who think only the physical world exists. It’s ironic they refuse to think it’s possible. They’re on a subreddit about UFOs...
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u/G00dAndPl3nty Sep 27 '18 edited Sep 27 '18
First of all, you act like the existance of an "astral" dimension is some kind of given. There is literally zero empirical evidence for an "astral" dimension.
You may as well say that aliens are from Middle Earth, or the Shire, because both of those places have as much merit to their existance as the "astral plane".
Second of all, when dealing with the unknown, it is generally better to go with an explanation that has the least number of assumptions.
Assuming that aliens come from a new dimension is not at all required as an explanation. Its like seeing a cookie is missing from the cookie jar, and assuming that Santa must have taken it. There is no need to assume the existence of Santa to explain the missing cookie. It is far more likely that Santa doesnt exist, and that the cookie was taken by the dog who taught himself how to open the jar, or the neighbor kid snuck in, etc etc.
We already know that the dimension we live in is capable of creating life (it created us). It is far more likely that it also created other life forms that have visited us than assuming that another dimension exists, and that other dimension is like ours in that it is also capable of creating life, and that life found a way to ross dimensions and come visit us.
There is absolutely no need to invoke the existence of a new dimension here. Its far more likely that visitors are from our own universe and simply have tech that looks like magic to us
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u/InventedByAlGore Sep 26 '18
Which of these can be proven scientifically?
1. That the brains of people who desperately want to believe that something extraordinary is real, will perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to imagine extraordinary explanations to make their fantasies more real to them?
2. That aliens visit Earth from other dimensions?
#1 is proven everyday by undergraduate and graduate students of psychology, sociology, etc., using scientifically rigorous experiments in institutions of higher learning all over the world.
That leads me to believe that #2 is more than likely, therefore, to be a whimsical, highly entertaining fantastical idea that sells books and UFO convention tickets, but has never been (and, doubtless, ever will be) proven scientifically.
TL;DR;: Occam's Razor To The Rescue!
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Sep 26 '18
Dont take me as a ney sayer please but i would really appropriate even a half arsed scientific explanation that goes into detail of those so called different dimensions.
because from my standpoint dimensions are just tools to explain our universe, in which we live. (please no links to content that require money to view)
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
Take a look at Einstein's work where he concluded that our reality of existence is in up to 11 dimensions, even if we can only perceive 3+1. He's not been proven wrong in 100 years.. I'm not sure if he's been proven right either..
The LHC might be able to shed light on this as mini black holes are supposed to shed light on this.
Most of the higher dimensions are supposedly tiny in scale.. down to planks length and loop around onto themselves.
Or have a look at string theory, which is still unproven but has a huge number of physicists supporting it.
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Sep 26 '18
Well i was asking for half arsed...my own fault i guess. Anyway i am incredibly sure that einstein did not come up with 11 dimension.
Yes, einsteins theories of special and general relativity have been proven right time and time again. Its not complete but what it gets right, it gets right.
the LHC also does not create Miniblackholes.
All i know about dimensions is that each and every theory includes another coordinate system (i know i know, i am trying to be general) those are part of our reality, not some other. We exist simultaneously in all of them. Everything else does too. It still does not explain life after death, at all. So i still need those links
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u/ziplock9000 Sep 26 '18
Einsteins theories have been instrumental with a lot of the scientific community today thinking there is at least 11 dimensions. To the point of it being overwhelming. A simple Google search or indeed knowledge of physics would make this obvious as it's been discussed for years, but as of yet not proven
Lecture regarding 10/11 dimensions
http://www.columbia.edu/cu/record/23/18/14.html
M-Theory with 11, Superstring with 10/26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory
Michio Kaku mentioning 11
https://bigthink.com/videos/the-multiverse-has-11-dimensions-2
The LHC could indeed one day produce plank mini black holes.
A Physics.org article discussing them and interestingly parallel universes like in the OP
https://phys.org/news/2015-03-mini-black-holes-lhc-parallel.html
"However, if extra dimensions do exist, it is thought that they would lower the energy required to produce black holes to levels that that the LHC can achieve"
Here's CERN itself talking about them at the LHC and trying to discover them!
https://home.cern/about/physics/extra-dimensions-gravitons-and-tiny-black-holes
ll i know about dimensions is that each and every theory includes another coordinate system (i know i know, i am trying to be general) those are part of our reality,
They are not part of our PERCEPTION but are certainly part of reality even if we can't see them. The whole of the scientific establishment is saying this and you are deciding it doesn't exist? Please...
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Sep 26 '18
Thanks for the links
Einstein Revolutionized physics with his Theories so of course he laid the foundations for others who eventually came up with String, Super String and M theory, then you got to include everyone before einstein aswell, "the Einstein" is often used to give validity to something regardless of facts. they are as i said before, mathematical concepts used to explain our universe.
Its all about fields of Energies and how they interact with one another. Simplified each dimension ads a Coordinate system. String theory though is definitely not complete. I would strongly caution anybody believing in life after death and aliens and such based on just that. That is literally religion.
Also drugs do not change our perception or make us see Multidimensional. I mean our eyes still only capture light from a very narrow EM spectrum. Dont get me wrong im not saying that Energy or Scalarfields Based life is not possible, quite the opposite i would assume that it exists. But the problem is, we are not energy based. We are Chemically based life. We exist by using chemical processes that over billions created thought.
That thought, what we call our self, or our soul is always in Flux, in different times you are always a different person. That means you only exist in one moment at one time. Our self is past self saved in our brains, via neurons and axons, its heavily influenced by our evolution and our genes also play a role. However we dont save all information, our brains and our thought works by approximation. We never truly know something. We estimate, and we are great at it! but that also means that whatever you are at one point in time is someone else in another.
Any person you think you know, you dont. Everyone including yourself dies every second that marches on. How can we even assume we have everlasting souls or consciousness under that realtity of our existence. Sure from a different viewpoint we exist in all 26 (speculated) dimensions. But our self can only exist in 3.
Sure your information exists in each and everyone but can you really be you when all your information, all your memories that you have and that you dont overtime become one? I dont think so, it would not be you at all. Like a picture of a person is simply there optical informations. Even if there is a mechanism by which your information is saved against entropy over time, it is the same as having a picture taken. It isnt really you. The only way one can live on after death is literally in the memories of others. The information that you have shared over your lifetime exist within someone else, in the same way as you exist. Still we wouldnt call that life after death.
Beings that exist lets say as a form of timeless energy, would have a very hard time understanding what we are. But they themselves need to first understand what they are in context with the reality and the universe. What i am trying to say with alot of words is that such beings would not be in need to build spaceships. Life in our universe though is definitely possible. We are the proof of that. If one wants to go to other planets you need to built machines to do so, that is also definitely possible. We send people to the moon, and will send them to mars. 200 or 2000 years ago that was said to absolutely impossible. As i said before i would strongly caution against beliefs for which we simply dont know enough information. For UFOs there is a good chance its aliens. But to jump the gun and belief that Extraspecial entities which could exist have an interest in us or that we can perceive them via drugs or that there is life after death for us is false.
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u/anonymous_being Sep 26 '18 edited Sep 26 '18
Agreed, OP.
Many ufologists agree with you, including Jacques Vallee who first had the idea.
Edit: Jacques Vallee is still alive. My bad.
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u/ASK47 Sep 26 '18
What does "interdimensional" mean to you?
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Sep 26 '18
I think they mean microverse. Any other type of travel (including dimensional) would require space-time travel.
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u/frozenmildew Sep 26 '18
Glad you know what they most likely are.
Noted. Can I quote your post for any future assignments or papers I may write?
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u/jesus_zombie_attack Sep 26 '18
How is changing dimensions paranormal?
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u/Infinite-God Sep 26 '18
I meant the experience is paranormal to people who have never encountered aliens/UFOs
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u/reified Sep 26 '18
If they have any form of genetic compatibility with humans then they have to have originated from a close parallel universe that diverged from ours in the past.
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u/obscenekinesics Sep 26 '18
Nah this totally makes sense. Why engineer FTL drives when you can warp through ether for way less energy and relative time.
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u/neversleep Sep 26 '18
Ive always wondered why this ufo I saw years ago just disappeared when I saw it. I expected it to fly away or move or something but it simply disappeared.
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Sep 26 '18
I think perhaps we have no chance of perceiving 4th+ dimensional things as what they truly are. If we are to perceive anything, it would very strange Say if 2d beings were to have a 3d apple land next to it- it would only see one very thing segment of the apple.
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Sep 26 '18
You might as well say aliens are coming from heaven. Not only is there no proof of the existence of other dimensions as you conceive them, but there is no solid evidence of aliens visiting earth in space craft beyond questionable testimony. The only thing that gives some credence to this theory is an assumed belief in aliens visiting Earth, coupled with the fact that space travel over the distances required is not known to be possible given our understanding of the universe.
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u/nattydread69 Sep 26 '18
It makes no sense. There is no evidence of extra dimensions. The Most rational explination Is Aliens Are Simply 4D beings like us.
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u/zungozeng Sep 26 '18
Maybe it is just me, but I am more interested in what is observed is actually real and psychically existing. AFTER that, we could think about what is happening. No use in theorizing things that might not be real. Of course, when it is not real, whatever it is happening, I do not know.
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u/Raineko Sep 26 '18
Not a single one of your explanations is a good reason for why they are interdimensional.
Part of the reason is because they tend to show up randomly and disappear randomly as well.
What if they just have some sort of cloaking technology?
Another thing is how would these UFOs go far out in space? That would take billions of years.
Not necessarily, in theory one could build a warp drive and travel faster than light on a linear path without breaking the laws of physics, we just don't know how to build machinery yet that can do that.
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u/ToBePacific Sep 26 '18
Just because you don't understand how Thing A works, that does not mean it must actually be Thing B which you also don't understand how it works.
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u/brereddit Sep 26 '18
Crossing wide swaths of space doesn’t have to involve an alien’s single lifespan...maybe they live entirely in space?
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u/greenufo333 Sep 26 '18
Why can't it be both? It doesn't have to be narrowed down into one category.
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u/Irbs Sep 26 '18
My gut tells me these are probes or AI sent from another much older intelligence somewhere else in the universe to gather data on our planet.
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u/Raybo58 Sep 26 '18
Faster than light travel would, by definition, be inter-dimensional. If you really want to learn about these things, PBS has an outstanding YouTube series called Space Time. Most are only 10 minutes long and are densely packed with very specific information. One example...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YycAzdtUIko
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u/The_BoneManXX Sep 26 '18
I agree and the theory was Einstein inadvertently connected with them through his unified field theory i.e. The Philadelphia Experiment & time travel
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u/sacrefist Sep 26 '18
Many of the claimed incidents at Skinwalker Ranch suggest dimensional travel.
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Dec 01 '18
Their ships are cloaked, reason can't often see them.
They do not live in another dimension. The word 'dimension' is the issue as it is not an accurate definition of where they are. They reside in 2nd Heaven, a more water based reality than here. So ships fly a lot like subs.
There is no 'space'. There is our ground-earth, 2nd Heaven and Heaven where God resides (plenty of more apt discriptions based on bible's testament, just google).
The observatories had to close this past September because I heard from one on-line commentor (do not recall who) that those observatories watch 2nd Heaven with specially fitted lenses for and on that day they (aliens) entered our space and reached ground level due to the 5G radiation exposure of many young children (ie. their favorite souls...yum) making them open to soul possession by them, and this could be seen by the observatories occurring in real time. They wanted no documentation recorded and hence total shut down. No witnesses and no docs so it never happened. Except of course, God sees all. lol.
Greys harvest souls for Satan's useage. Souls, for example, power their ship technology there.
The Bible calls them 'frogs' that 'come out of his mouth' (as in you swab someone's mouth for DNA, hence greys are clones mixed with frog dna of satan's serpant/dinosaur (t-rex) flesh).
They (greys) enchant the Kings/Presidents of the earth to follow satan. Also called the Beast out of the Sea representing Roosevelt+co-horts in 1945 on 'D' day, as troops landed on said beach head appear as a beast coming out of the sea image.
Roosevelt is the head that falls, replaced by the UN. Day UN rises is day Daniels 70 weeks = years date setting begins.
Orbs are what they place in homes to watch you, ie. like a far seeing eye.
People lose time because frogs/greys can enchant their victims.
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u/Negativitee Sep 26 '18
While I don't necessarily disagree with what you're saying I personally think that them developing faster-than-light means of travel is about as plausible (or more plausible) as them figuring out how to cross between dimensions.