What is it that appeals to you about stoicism, or are you here in bad faith? I’m trying to understand your sentiment, but it’s very fundamental to the philosophy that you recognize there are things in our control and things that are not in our control.
Do you feel unseen? Are you hurting? What gives you the impression that this is not a life worth being grateful for? Simply because it isn’t constant bliss? I genuinely want to understand your thought here.
Please do not try to lecture me about what is or isn't stoic. I cannot control that I was born. I'm not grateful for it. I don't care about being seen. Life itself is pain. I never said anything about the worth of life. I may also be a hedonist, but most likely not by your definition. Wouldn't constant bliss be incredibly boring? I don't care about your wants. It's great you have strong feelings one way or the other. I too have preferences, but those are mine and inconsequential. Do you think I chose my name on a whim?
You may feel like life is pain, but it doesn't really have to be that way, you can try and give some attention for your mental health and understand how you can live a life that feels better to you
I don't have any power to create worlds other than those in my head/imagination. I didn't create the real world, only my personal situation in it of which I have no problems other than those created by others. None of which I would have if I wasn't created.
Because you all are dense, I'm not implying I want to not exist, I have no choice other than to exist since I'm already here, and when I do eventually die, I'll have less problems. If it was my preference to be dead, I wouldn't be here bickering with y'all.
If I want to feel like the truth... I'm not about to lie to myself.
I’m sorry you’re frustrated by the nature of the conversation friend. I don’t want to bicker, but I’m also not willing to concede that the world is some objectively miserable place because somebody else can’t muster the ability to move past the hard parts. Fundamentally, we view the world in different ways. One worldview isn’t more of a truth than the other just because it’s the one that you operate within.
It doesn’t make me dense that you’re combative and stubborn about your attitude toward an experience we all have to “deal with”. You live in the world that you create. I wish you nothing but wellness.
I'm not trolling, but that is something a troll would say. I will argue with most people about anything, and shouldn't be taken seriously though. I believe I need to ask people what their personal definition of stoicism is. I also believe there's a great misunderstanding between us. This could be from having different world views, but I think it's because y'all take this way too seriously. Bunch of downers in here. Can't even revel in their own useless existences. It's freeing to be useless, not chains. The world is your oyster.
I'm not in any way frustrated. This was never a call for help. I never said anything about anything being miserable or being unable to move forwards. There are some things that are just truths. For example, if you never existed, you would never have any problems. I'm not combative, though I cannot interpret things for you either. I did not create this world, only my own personal part in it. I make my own bed that I lie in and am comfortable with that.
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u/Some_Stoic_Man 14d ago
Sigh.