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u/jsun31 Cassian Andor 3d ago

SM-33 abides by claimsies

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u/dagnummit Lando 3d ago

aye

aye

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u/CatandOtter-3812 3d ago

Captain Fern.

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u/snakeybasher 2d ago

............ Aye

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u/darthvall Imperial Stormtrooper 2d ago

I don't understand that scene. How could fern did the unclaimsies? Or is it just 33 becoming fond of the kids? He even brought up about how Jod can't have two claims

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u/spaceman620 2d ago

That's the thing about the Pirate Code, it's more like guidelines than actual rules.

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u/slayerhk47 2d ago

Thanks, Barbosa

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u/your_mind_aches Supreme Leader Snoke 2d ago

Or is it just 33 becoming fond of the kids?

It's that.

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u/emberisgone 2d ago

Yeah as given away by the line from 33 about it "being close enough" , as in "eh not really how it works but it's good enough of an excuse for me"

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u/Psychonominaut 2d ago

Which means that we see him as a robot, struck down (again), now knowing he has complete agency and autonomy, a pirate at heart (or cpu).

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u/Triskan 2d ago

That whole sequence made me want to see a more adult story about droids and their place in the SW universe. There could be potential for a tale about their free-will and how they sometimes are treated almost as slaves.

A Spartacus-like droid uprising could be a nice story.

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u/Sir__Will Rex 2d ago

The status and treatment of droids in Star Wars is so messed up. They're slaves, often abused, but they want to give them human traits which just makes them look like literal slaves.

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u/ScenicAndrew 2d ago

Droids in star wars are and have always been basically just people who can play the role of the underlings without the audience feeling gross.

This isn't something we need to overcome as an audience, they're fictional and it's at no one's expense. It's a powerful tool that the writers have at their disposal, we can see them as people, the characters can see them as machines, and all without us coming to despise the characters for it. Doing that with all humans is basically impossible.

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u/transmogrify 2d ago

We can't really ever have a legitimate moral reckoning about droids because it would really tarnish the image of a lot of otherwise heroic characters, most of the main protagonists. Wherever the story goes of droids in Star Wars, it will have to walk some kind of razor thin line where it defines the droids as not being universally abused.

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u/Sir__Will Rex 2d ago

They haven't seemed to have that issue when it comes to shitting on the Jedi order, but I get what you mean and agree, nothing's really going to change

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u/transmogrify 2d ago

There's quite a difference between saying that the Order fell victim to pride, and saying Luke Skywalker owned slaves.

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u/viper459 1d ago

you don't need to say it, it's already true. Droids are clearly and obviously sapient and capable of decision making, creatinb bonds with people, getting past their programming, hell they show quite a lot of feelings. Whether anything "reckons" with that or not, is, quite honestly, moot. Luke skywalker was a slave owner. Period.

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u/ThodasTheMage 2d ago

Droids in Star Wars are such a mess and if taken to seriously it raises so many question that the best course is probably to keep them silly.

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u/fed45 22h ago

They kinda touched on it in that one episode of Mando, "We don't want to be replaced, we still have a lot out contribute. Human life is so short, they don't ask that much of us. Organics created us, it's the least we can do."

But I would like to see more on this too. Maybe two sides, those droids that are treated well and those that aren't.

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u/baojinBE Darth Sidious 2d ago

He did kinda sound glad when Fern became captain again

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u/Angry-Dragon-1331 2d ago

It’s SM-33 needing just enough leeway to decide how to obey his programming, especially with the contradiction of Jod trying to claim both ships, which creates an error in SM-33’s logic (rules are one captain per ship and one ship per captain), since Jod never formally relinquishes the frigate, 33 can choose how to interpret his claim on captaincy of the Cinder.

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u/tealcandtrip 2d ago

They establish the rules in the first episode.

Wim: This is mine. I already claimed it.

Fern: I called unclaimsees and then claimed it for me and KB.

Wim: No calling unclaimsees without the claimer.

Fern: Fine, then I call unclaimsees now!

KB/Wim: Claimsees! [Wim: Blast it.]

Neel: They called claimsees. It checks out.

To be honest, I like the idea that SM-33/KB had programmed the ship to recognize the rules of claimsees. It would have been fun if Wim's call of Claimsees from the last episode had been enough to circumvent Jod taking over the ship. However, I think we are supposed to just think SM-33 likes the kids more than Jod.

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u/PaleBarracuda9804 1d ago

I like to think that the kids know about Claimsees because Tak Rennod introduced it when he came to the planet. It probably has roots in the Pirate Code that have since been forgotten. It became a silly game that kids played until now when it saved their lives because the rules still made sense to SM-33.

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u/mujie123 2d ago

33 just preferred Fern to Jod

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u/NeptuneOW 2d ago

Me either, it felt very odd considering all of SM33’s acts so far in the show. He has exclusively followed the orders of the captain so this move was odd.

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u/RJSquires 3d ago

And so should we all! Cardinal truth of the Star Wars galaxy!