r/StarWars Jedi Oct 31 '24

Well, that’s interesting. Movies

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u/Know_Nothing_Bastard Oct 31 '24 edited Oct 31 '24

And here I was, thinking it was perfectly obvious that Obi-Wan reacted to his name that way because he hadn’t used it in twenty years.

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u/democracy_lover66 Oct 31 '24

I feel like writers are so worried about their audience being kinda dumb... they always try spoonfeeding shit.

Like nah we got it Lucas, Obi-wan went by Ben for 20 years... and Luke said "obi-wan" and he was like "huh it's been a long time since I heard that name"

We don't need a more complicated story to explain that line.

And that goes for the Disney writers too. We don't need a whole movie to explain Hans parsec line. It sounds spacey, it's fun, that's all it needs to be.

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u/Wild_Marker Oct 31 '24

It's worse in this case, because it's "reverse spoonfeeding". It's a thing with prequels, where they feel like they have to explain every damn detail of the originals and give it a reason to be.

Possibly the most ridiculous example is Xavier balding in Apocalypse. They couldn't just accept that he went bald, no, they just HAD to give it a plot reason.

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u/democracy_lover66 Oct 31 '24

Lmaoo well said.

Same thing with prequels and comeos from OG characters. Not everyone from the original needs to appear in a prequel. Sometimes people come in later in history, it's nbd.

I do like the starwars prequels (while acknowledging their very obvious faults) but the thing that erks me the most is Chewbacca and Yoda...

Why did Chewbacca need to be in them at all? Why is he friends with Yoda?? This is never even hinted at in the originals lol it makes no sense at all.

Makes the galaxy feel super tiny. Like the only people living in it are the characters we know.

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u/Wild_Marker Oct 31 '24

Yeah Star Wars in particular has a big issue with shrinking the world. Everyone is related, everyone turns out to have met before, etc.

And obviously the sequels fell into the same trap. Rey Palpatine being the most notable example.

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u/Reidroshdy Nov 01 '24

Like why did the robot that Anakin builds have to be c-3po?

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u/democracy_lover66 Nov 01 '24

Also an infuriating detail

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u/ILoveCamelCase Oct 31 '24

I liked the headcannon that Han was bullshitting Obi-Wan to see if he was a sucker or not. Guess that's gone now.

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u/Sir_Flasm Oct 31 '24

Thanks to his headcannon, Han was able to shoot first.

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u/saturday_cappuccino Nov 02 '24

If I recall right it was a footnote in the script??? Pretty sure Obi-Wan's giving him a smirk because he knows Han is lying hotheadedly but also knows he can do the job. It wouldn't be surprising if Han reminded him of Anakin even within just the original movie's context: "He was the best star pilot in the galaxy"

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u/Sniper_Hare Oct 31 '24

I thought they explained the Kessel Run by saying it was Han taking crazy risks by plotting near black holes or asteroids that no one else would attempt, so he did it in a shorter total distance than anyone else. 

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u/SpooptyYouCrazay Oct 31 '24

To be fair, there was an EU book (Rebel Dawn) that covered the Kessel run written 20 years before the Solo movie so you can't really put that on Disney.

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u/democracy_lover66 Oct 31 '24

Yeah I would say EU had the same problem actually lol But with much less visibility

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u/Ghostronic Oct 31 '24

Young me absolutely loved that book trilogy. And the X-Wing series.

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u/Careless-Resource-72 Oct 31 '24

Han shot first.

In the original he’s the only one who shot.

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u/Ghostronic Oct 31 '24

Han shot.

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u/[deleted] Oct 31 '24

Lucas did this with The Empire Strikes Back.

In the original version, after Luke falls down the chasm, there's a scene where Vader is storming down a hallway in Cloud City and simply says "Bring my shuttle." Then the next time we see him, he's on board his star destroyer.

In the Special Editions, the dialog changes to "Alert my star destroyer to prepare for my arrival" and then there's this added, long drawn out sequence showing his shuttle landing in the Executor's shuttle bay and Vader leaving the shuttle.

It's so insulting. The original scene was powerful because, while brief, it showed how pissed Vader was. It's as though Lucas thought "well, gee, the audience is going to be real confused about how Vader suddenly got back on his ship".

Out of all the changes Lucas did to the original films, to me this one's the most egregious.

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u/democracy_lover66 Oct 31 '24

Out of all the changes Lucas did to the original films, to me this one's the most egregious.

are you sure it wasn't ... this...

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u/Virtual-Sand-3906 Nov 01 '24

Before I clicked I was hoping this would be it. This is going to sound dramatic, but this scene makes my ROTJ blu ray unwatchable for me.

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u/Arniepepper Nov 01 '24

Spot on.
I went by my middle name for 30 years. But have been going by my first name now for nearly 10.
When the occasional family member calls me by my middle name, it takes me a moment to realise who they are talking to...

['Middle name'? now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time]

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u/democracy_lover66 Nov 01 '24

Woah that's so funny, I also went by my middle name and switched to my first lol

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u/rjwalsh94 Boba Fett Oct 31 '24

That’s the worst part about the Kessel Run. It was so fine being something so weirdly explained that we never needed to understand it, let alone see it.

But I’ll be damned if watching that SD enter the clouded space wasn’t exciting, idk what would be.

But then again, anytime you see an ISD, it’s exciting. Ahsoka, Solo, Rogue One, etc.

I get more excited seeing them pop up again than seeing them in just the OT, you know.

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u/MC_ATL Nov 01 '24

True enough.