r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/Peteostro • Nov 26 '24
Trump Pledges 25% Tariffs on Mexico, Canada and 10% on China Trump
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-pledges-tariffs-on-mexico-canada-and-china-3c62b1f76.6k
u/mrdavexxviii Nov 26 '24
Lets play a game of "Spot the man who has never had a genuine friend"
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u/Edogawa1983 Nov 26 '24
Didn't he had that Epstein fellow
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u/buttered_scone Nov 26 '24
He thought Epstein was his friend, but Epstein didn't like him, he was just convenient and completely corrupt. And a pervert.
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u/MoonageDayscream Nov 26 '24
We have all read about how the squabbled over raping order, but I think it was a real estate deal that ended their association. Epstein was bidding against him for a Florida property. Unforgivable.
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u/buttered_scone Nov 26 '24
Epstein was a lot more socially savvy than Trump, he understood exactly what kind of monster Trump was and he saw opportunity there. The man had his fingers in beauty pageants after all. Until their supposed falling out, I think Trump was a convenient pervert with connections, and Epstein supplied him with women and children. By the time they had their falling out, the writing was on the wall for Epstein, as he was already under investigation publicly.
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u/Adult_school Nov 26 '24
Trump is not cool in any sense of the word. Influential? Yes. Rich? Yes. He is even popular. But among any social circle that doesn’t value pocket book size he’s a total fucking dork. Non-drinker narcissist with influence who can be funny (shock jock funny, more Howard stern than George Carlin). In any other city he’d be a failed real estate nobody. He was New York rich. Semi Old money. In Cali he’s a nobody, in Texas he’s a nobody, in Chicago he’s a nobody, Miami, nobody, Philly, nobody. He’s a dork with a chip on his shoulder with some power and something to prove like so many bad apple cops, you just pray he doesn’t focus his nerd rage on you.
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u/SinkHoleDeMayo Nov 26 '24
It's pretty well known that Trump always wanted to fit in with the NY high society, but people knew him as the doofus son of a slumlord. He was a gaudy, classless idiot who tried to buy his way in and be flashy, but everyone knew he was a jackass.
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u/Lythaera Nov 26 '24
yeah and the destruction of our society is the best way he could think of to prove that he's better than them. So fucking stupid that this is happening.
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u/NewldGuy77 Nov 26 '24
Correction: In some parts of Cali (Orange County/San Diego, Central Valley) there’d are people lining up to get on their knees and do a Laura Loomer on the guy. Not exactly his friends, but next best thing.
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u/Lythaera Nov 26 '24
this is the best summary of Trump that I've ever seen. It almost feels like his entire presidental campaign is just to prove to all the people who weren't impressed by him how he can manipulate the masses or something. It's fucking pathetic. Honestly, the fact that a man like him convinced the stupidest among us so easily to give up democracy is just the biggest self-own in our species' history. It's fucking comedic that this is the way our society collapses.
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u/KalmiaKamui Nov 26 '24
His ability to manipulate the masses hasn't made me think any more highly of him, but it has made me think significantly less of the average American.
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u/Tricky-Engineering59 Nov 26 '24
Didn’t a recording come out recently of Epstein saying Trump gave even a soulless monster like himself the creeps?
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u/CalendarAggressive11 Nov 26 '24
Yes and conveniently, it was not covered before the election by anyone other than The Daiky Beast
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u/Appropriate-Low-9582 Nov 26 '24
Birds of the same feather flock together
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u/Crabhahapatty Nov 26 '24
Birds of the same feather flock together
accurate, weird reddit is hiding your response.
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u/Agreeable-Menu Nov 26 '24
Mix upvoting and downvoting. Who is downvoting? I assume birds who resent the comment.
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u/edfitz83 Nov 26 '24
How about “lowest ever passing grade in Wharton undergrad, but threatened to sue everyone about release of facts”?
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u/Teddycrat_Official Nov 26 '24
Sure we had first inflation, but what about second inflation?
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u/TheFirstLanguage Nov 26 '24
Inflation includes some increase in wages, so it isn't even that. It's a pure tax on consumers.
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u/fallwind Nov 26 '24
That’s only one type, there are lots of kinds of inflation (and this will be one of them)
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u/SelenaMeyers2024 Nov 26 '24
Inflation is only inflation under Dems, under Republicans it's just a temporary but necessary pain to bring back jobs.
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u/tanafras Nov 26 '24
Since we have Forrest and Bubba running the country now...
Inflation is like a box of chocolates—prices go up, and you never know what you're gonna get. There’s wage inflation, cost-push inflation, demand-pull inflation, stagflation, hyperinflation... and that’s just the start!
There's all kinds of inflation. There's wage inflation, price inflation, demand-pull inflation, cost-push inflation, stagflation, hyperinflation, deflation. You can have housing inflation, food inflation, fuel inflation. Pretty much, if it’s got a price, it can inflate.
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u/nicholus_h2 Nov 26 '24
nah, that's to much credit. Forrest has awareness that he wasn't smart. he knew he didn't know what was going on. that's why he accepted help from others.
i wouldn't describe anybody in Trump's sphere as having any sense of awareness.
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u/CarelessToday1413 Nov 26 '24
Hey don't you shit on Forrest like that.
Forrest at least is someone who is earnest, like hell if nothing he does what he does best. Even his drill sergeant is impressed with him.
Apart from his Apple investment, almost all his other jobs were successes of his own making.
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u/RoseCityHooligan Nov 26 '24
rcon too busy celebrating the J6 charges getting dropped to realize they're gonna be eating corn syrup on their pancakes next year.
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u/Choano Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
And good luck with any construction or home improvement they'd planned on.
Also – if the aim is to give goods from China a disadvantage, why make the tarrifs on stuff from China less than the tariffs on stuff from Canada and Mexico?
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u/senseithenahual Nov 26 '24
My bet? The people that are using Trump as their puppet just make business with China.
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u/cipheron Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
Well let's hope.
Keep in mind normal inflation is when the government doesn't meddle directly in pricing. If Trump actually meddles a lot, basically by threatening businesses he doesn't like to prevent price rises, you might see things looking even worse than a bit of inflation.
That situation is historically when you start to see shelves emptying out. Or, it's similar to shortages during the pandemic, when stores didn't want to be seen as price-gouging on stuff like toilet paper, so you simply couldn't buy toilet paper for a while, and a short-lived black market sprung up with toilet paper scalpers.
So if Trump was to fuck with things more directly, and he seems like someone who would, this could in fact get uglier than simple inflation.
EDIT: the standard, tested approach is that governments don't meddle with prices, but they responsibly adjust interests rates to cool off inflation, while providing a safety net for the most vulnerable citizens. Everything I've seen and what he's said leads me to expect him to do the exact opposite of whatever the sensible and tested approach is. He'll slash interest rates and taxes for the rich, while gutting welfare and social support programs. He'll fight inflation by crushing businesses who oppose him and slashing wages to China levels.
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u/dbuck1964 Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
Mexico exports nearly a half (sorry-not billion) trillion dollars in goods to the U.S. every year, the most from any country. Computers, cars, auto parts, machinery, etc. In most cases, things we cannot produce ourselves in the quantity required. This is simply cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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u/Scooby2679 Nov 26 '24
Canada’s close behind. And if it gets into a trade war and both Mexico and Canada , two of the top three US trading partners respond with counter tariffs, things will get even worse.
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u/justasque Nov 26 '24
And if I remember correctly from last time around, Canada was getting undocumented refugees from the US, not the other way around. Tiny Canadian towns on the border were coping with an influx of refugees, most of whom crossed at freezing cold places, often without decent winter gear. So the whole “we’re keeping the tariffs until you stop the flow of fentanyl and illegal aliens from your country” thing doesn’t make a lot of sense.
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u/daveyhempton Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
https://mainemorningstar.com/2024/08/14/congress-aims-to-boost-enforcement-at-the-border-with-canada
There are 190k attempted illegal crossings into the US from Canada. 7x higher than what it used to be just a couple of years ago fwiw.
Tariffs are still absolutely not the solution. Tying the tariffs to immigration is brain dead
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u/ClusterMakeLove Nov 26 '24
Lumber has been part of a Canada/US trade dispute for years, but I don't think that's where the pain will really be felt here.
The US imports a lot of energy from Canada, and the auto industries in the east have products that cross the border multiple times. I doubt manufacturing in either country could survive that.
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u/JPGaganon Nov 26 '24
Potash and other fertilizers are mostly imported from Canada. That will really hurt farmers not even mentioning that their labor supply will be limited by deportations.
There are also a lot of places that get electricity directly from Canada especially in the Northeast.
So much potential harm for many industries and consumers!
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u/daveyhempton Nov 26 '24
That's definitely one of the imports that everyone likes to increase the tariff on both Rs and Ds. Recently, the Biden admin almost doubled the tariffs on it. The current marketshare of Canadian Lumber is roughly 20%, I wouldn't be surprised if it drops below 15 in a year or so.
To answer your question, I do believe that this may affect the house prices in the US, but certainly not as much as it would have in the past. But combine this with the tariffs on China which is where we import most of our construction materials and YES, you are looking at increased housing costs i.e., another factor that will fuck everyone looking to buy
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u/so-strand Nov 26 '24
Let’s not talk about the number of aliens, drugs and guns coming to Canada from the us tho.
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u/Kaspur78 Nov 26 '24
China will also respond with (targeted) counter tariffs, so that makes 3 out of 3.
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u/onthefence928 Nov 26 '24
A large part of rural America is entirely dependent on exporting soy to China. It’s kind of ironic. If China counter tariffs soy, then the damage to entire states in the rural middle will be catastrophic
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u/Balphon Nov 26 '24
That’s more or less what happened following the trade war in the first Trump administration. It led to a large increase in farm subsidies.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932
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u/Raskalbot Nov 26 '24
So if I’m understanding every comment above this one correctly… this guys trying to fuck us!
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u/DiscombobulatedHat19 Nov 26 '24
They can go fuck themselves as they voted for this shit
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u/nottooparticular Nov 26 '24
Every time there has been a trade dispute with Canada, the Canadians took it to the NAFTA tribunal and won. The North American Free Trade Agreement is pretty bulletproof.
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u/adreddit298 Nov 26 '24
If you're a politician who plays by the usual rules. Trump is quite capable of ignoring or pulling out of NAFTA
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u/XKryptix0 Nov 26 '24
It’s even more idiotic as his previous administration is the one that put in place NAFTA 2
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u/Lucky-Roy Nov 26 '24
And you’d think Canada and Mexico would be like China, ie, smart enough to put tariffs on areas and industries that supported Trump the most.
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u/Mbalz-ez-Hari Nov 26 '24
That’s exactly what we did last time
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u/markyjim Nov 26 '24
Problem is Donny Dipshit isn’t worried about reelection. The 2025 folks have apparently priced this in and the public will just have to suffer through it
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u/Carnivile Nov 26 '24
Don't forget most fresh produce. If republicans though groceries were expensive before they haven't seen shit.
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u/Agreeable-Menu Nov 26 '24
But he promised to lower my grocery bill LOL. At least corn will be cheaper as all that corn we sell to Mexico will need a new market.
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u/Jamstarr2024 Nov 26 '24
We already subsidize the shit out of corn production, too. Just making everything worse.
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u/Unusual_Response766 Nov 26 '24
Imports of goods and services from Mexico the US in 2022 were $493.1 billion.
Of that, goods imports were $454.8 billion.
So nearly half a trillion.
https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/americas/mexico
This genius plan would have seen an extra $113.7 billion added to the cost of goods to the American consumer from tariffs alone.
That’s $344 for every man, woman, and child (obviously it’s not evenly spread). Or $1,378 for a family of four, every year. Just tariffs.
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u/danielledelacadie Nov 26 '24
Well, i guess Canada needs to start marketing 438 billion of the following goods elsewhere as a backup.
Petroleum, cars, timber...
Oh and military equipment. I guess we could make Trump happy by selling to NATO countries instead.
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u/hrminer92 Nov 26 '24
It’s likely in violation of the trade agreement his admin negotiated (basically a slightly worse version of what the Obama admin had achieved with TPP).
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u/SavagePlatypus76 Nov 26 '24
Exactly.
Why would any country sign a deal with us if we just break them at the whims of Fat Orange Jesus?
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u/hoopopotamus Nov 26 '24
As a Canadian I was at “the USA can no longer be trusted” last time you elected this buffoon.
This just seals the deal
Go fuck yourself, America.
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u/Tiny-Airport-6090 Nov 26 '24
And the executive branch has a lot of leeway to grant exceptions to specific industries and businesses. I wonder which donors, I mean industries, will be first in line for those exceptions.
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u/L3P3ch3 Nov 26 '24
Ugh?!? I think you missed a few zeros. Its more like USD425b pa and is the second major importer behind Canada.
So cars, fuel, chemicals, food, machinery, steel and more. Inflation coming to the US of A.
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u/Fer_Shizzle_DSMIA Nov 26 '24
500 billion and a 25% tariff on American citizen = 125 billion.
Approx $350 per person in the US. That’s just the Mexico tariff. Now add in Canada and China.
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u/handcraftedcandy Nov 26 '24
Don't forget produce, a huge amount of fresh fruits and veggies come from Mexico
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u/darkenedgy Nov 26 '24
Remember that time he was so proud of renegotiating NAFTA lol
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u/Biomax315 Nov 26 '24
Yeah that’s what I came to say … if he doesn’t like the current trade deals with Mexico and Canada, then why did he make them?
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u/SavagePlatypus76 Nov 26 '24
Why would any country do a deal with someone so untrustworthy?
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u/Biomax315 Nov 26 '24
Because they benefitted. Trump got pantsed in his trade wars. Because it turns out, he’s actually not smart and is not very good at making deals.
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u/ericblair21 Nov 26 '24
He was never good at making deals. He would always sign shitty deals for himself and then simply cheat and not pay up. Then The Apprentice did a pile of industrial strength reputation laundering for that shitty reality TV show and the rest is history, except for the disasters that haven't happened quite yet.
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u/dak4f2 Nov 26 '24
Like why such big tariffs on our closest neighbors, allies, and trade partners? Wtf?
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u/Fred-zone Nov 26 '24
Honestly he's probably posturing. With Mexico at least, he wants leverage to get them to handle immigrants at the southern border before they enter the US.
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u/dak4f2 Nov 26 '24
Why does he have to bully our allies though? Aren't there better ways to negotiate a win-win that do not burn bridges? This guy is a demented psycho.
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u/unclejoe1917 Nov 26 '24
He hates our allies. He desperately wants to be part of the dictator club.
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u/PapaQuebec23 Nov 26 '24
To a malignant narcissist there is no such thing as win-win. Someone must win and someone must lose. And if the narcissist is the loser, then there's all sorts of rationalizing that they actually won.
This is the worst timeline.
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u/Agreeable-Menu Nov 26 '24
Honestly Putin and Xi Ping rejoice every time this guy weakens US alliances. An isolated and broke US will be less of a threat or competition. Russia and China don't want big brother telling them what they can and cannot do anymore.
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u/Dull_Yellow_2641 Nov 26 '24
Walmart already said they were expecting to raise prices. And you better believe retailers will raise the prices much higher than that 25%. They'll take advantage of the price gouging.
And still...the ones who voted for Trump won't blame him. They will never blame the Republicans for this, or look at their own actions. Nope. As long as he passes a stupid executive order banning transgender individuals from the military, he'll be praised as a hero by the right for fighting the "woke virus." They may not be able to afford their homes, their cars or food for their kids, but by God, they're owning the libs and that is what's important to them.
Fucking morons.
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u/MarcusTheSarcastic Nov 26 '24
You point out something that so many seem to be forgetting. If Walmart has to pay 20% more, they are going to charge 30% more because they can. No matter what number the mango moron goes with, for most products it will be higher.
…and don’t expect a raise to help offset that.
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u/Dull_Yellow_2641 Nov 26 '24
And even if tariffs are repealed, those retailers will mark the old prices as “sales.” Watch.
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u/AshleysDoctor Nov 26 '24
And notice how much smaller the packaging will be
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u/markhachman Nov 26 '24
And those prices will never drop again
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u/quebecesti Nov 26 '24
We should burn these businesses to the fucking ground
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u/darkmafia666 Nov 26 '24
That is how these sort of things go in the end eventually. Eventually society will devolve and we will burn the corporate bastards to the ground. But unless things get bad quick we're still a few years away from that. .......I hope
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u/systembusy Nov 26 '24
Some years ago, Kroger attempted this very thing when they wanted to tack an extra 2% onto every transaction in which the customer paid with a credit card. They were such cheap fucks that they didn’t want to be responsible for the merchant/transaction fees that credit card companies charge them.
Guess how they marketed that? They suggested that customers should see it as a “discount” for those who opt to pay with cash or debit instead.
Thankfully they got enough severe backlash to where it didn’t happen, but it wouldn’t stop them from marking everything up anyway.
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u/Oriander13 Nov 26 '24
Gas stations have been doing this for decades
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u/Toltolewc Nov 26 '24
A lot of small businesses.
They get in trouble with the cc company for charging a cc fee but not for offering a cash discount
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u/ClassicT4 Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
Won’t even be the old prices anymore. It’ll just be dropping the price a fraction of what it was raised and bank on the “discount sale” to sell it.
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u/dbuck1964 Nov 26 '24
Standard markup for a lot of retail is considered to be forty percent gross, or a 1.67 markup. If you had a $100 cost item that retailed for $167 and now the cost is $125 because of the tariff the new retail price will be $209. So yes, it goes up 25 percent but that’s also on the consumer retail price, not taking the 167 and adding 25 dollars to it.
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u/bit-by-a-moose Nov 26 '24
30% is conservative.
We've seen corporations with record profits EVEN during the pandemic. Why? Because they raise prices just because they can. Global pandemic, oops prices going up. Most importantly, public blaming Dems for inflation? "Yeah, that's why we are raising the prices"
Tariffs are going to give corporations an opening to raise prices even more. Over and above what would be considered reasonable. And then the economic downturn will as well. It is a domino chain and every fallen one is an opportunity to raise prices.
Biden of course will get the blame first. Residual effects from Bidenomics. Maybe they'll eventually move blame to "China is charging too much for their products." (oh the irony there) but yeah, the corporations and trump will never receive the blame.
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u/GammaFan Nov 26 '24
I hate how accurate this is because it has forced me to grapple with the reality that TFG or his handlers are actually proposing tariffs not as some dumbshit concept of a plan but specifically for the reasons you’ve stated.
Fuck, it’s a genuinely good smokescreen for price hikes that an uninformed populace will never even notice.
Fuck.
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u/OrganizationActive63 Nov 26 '24
And just remember where the majority of Walmart shoppers are located - in red states where Walmart is the only game in town
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u/wayua84 Nov 26 '24
People are stupid, so yeah, of course prices are going to go higher than 25%. And of course any company that isn't even affected by the tariffs are going to put prices up anyway, since so many things will have price hikes that you might as well put yours up and make more money
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u/markhachman Nov 26 '24
In this piece that talks about what the tariffs will mean in terms of consumer tech prices, there's mention of a paper that found the prices of clothes dryers went up by the same amount as a tariff -- except that the tariffs were assessed on washing machines only.
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u/King_of_the_Nerdth Nov 26 '24
Trump doesn't lead the cult, conservative media does. They tell them what to believe.
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u/Thebadparker Nov 26 '24
Adios avocados.
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u/Jackpot777 Nov 26 '24
Notice how it was 60% on China just a few weeks ago? Hmmmm.
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u/itsatumbleweed Nov 26 '24
Indeed. 60% from China was the promise.
In fact, lower tariffs on China than the others is going to steer business to China while also driving prices up.
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u/Nekowulf Nov 26 '24
He got a personal call from General Tso, congratulating him on his win and offering him many medals of winningness, along with choice land next to military bases to build trump towers.
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u/arararanara Nov 26 '24
In all seriousness this kind of about face is most likely because his CEO buddies talked to him about how they get all their parts from China and that he’d be tanking their business, or something along those lines.
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u/Agreeable-Menu Nov 26 '24
Or maybe Xi Ping reminded him all those deals he will get him like he did 4 years ago.
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u/ScentedFire Nov 26 '24
On the one hand I'm not looking forward to Repubs acting like the sky isn't falling when it will really just be because there are still some adults in the room refusing to let Trump have his way, but I'm also hoping this and the Gaetz removal is showing that someone is pressuring him to not totally tank us.
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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Nov 26 '24
His new pick wasn't any better for us policy wise, she's just not under investigation for diddling kids.
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u/syphonblue Nov 26 '24
yet
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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Nov 26 '24
If she didn't have skeletons in her closet he wouldn't have moved her to a cabinet.
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u/BooksofMagic Nov 26 '24
Someone told him his Bibles are made there so he wants to make sure they stay cheap - I guess he doesn't want the American People to pay any Tariffs on them. Isn't that nice of him?
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u/P0Rt1ng4Duty Nov 26 '24
Plus that's who makes all of the ''America first'' merch and he doesn't want it to impact his grift.
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u/camworld Nov 26 '24
Can't wait to hear the uneducated Trump-voting morons complain about everything being so expensive and blaming it on Biden. Sigh.
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u/sahara654 Nov 26 '24
“We just wanted cheaper eggs” Little do these morons realize that it’s due to the avian flu. A single chicken in a flock gets infected and every chicken on the property has to be put down. When that happens at multiple commercial flocks, eggs are going to go up in price.
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u/Zeno_The_Alien Nov 26 '24
And they want even less regulation (read: none) in the food industry, and just can't seem to put two and two together.
Upton Sinclair is spinning in his grave.
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u/norbertmonster Nov 26 '24
Well, in that case they just won't bother putting the chickens down. Cheap eggs! Well all be sick, though.
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u/techm00 Nov 26 '24
Canadian here. We have free trade agreements with every other G7 nation, the european union, plus good agreements with asia. go ahead. We'll just sell our commodities to them.
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u/SavagePlatypus76 Nov 26 '24
Go right ahead .
Maga morons need to be taught a lesson.
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u/ChickenSalad96 Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
They voted Trump a
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u/Unistrut Nov 26 '24
They voted for him three times, they just lost the second time.
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u/HydrargyrumHg Nov 26 '24
As a US citizen I don't blame you one iota. We've demonstrated a complete lack of consistent governance and we are an unreliable trade partner. Sell to us when it is to your advantage and to everyone else when it isn't. We've managed to utterly destroy the goodwill we garnered over decades of free trade. As a nation we deserve every bad thing that is about to unfold. We've let ingrained stupidity, complacency, and hatred win the day. Those things are the only real American values.
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u/CdnBison Nov 26 '24
Last time he did this, we (Canada) got really specific about our own tariffs - basically targeted goods made almost solely in areas of high Trump support. Hoping that it’s our response once again.
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u/Fellowshipofthebowl Nov 26 '24
Prices will go up accordingly. Are we this stupid?
Clown Show
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u/MrOopiseDaisy Nov 26 '24
76 million people called us liars and voted for him. THEN, they looked up what his policies were.
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u/nicholus_h2 Nov 26 '24
uh, yeah. it only makes sense to research AFTER you make decisions. anything else would be stupid with two o's.
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u/MrThunderkat Nov 26 '24
He's literally doing this cause he probably heard about tariffs somewhere and didn't know what they were and now he has to do it to save face.
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u/framspl33n Nov 26 '24
He's doing this because he knows his moronic voters don't understand tarrifs and the resulting inflation will allow the most wealthy of his patrons, who won't be affected, to make even more money. They look forward to the ever widening divide between the rich and poor will get even bigger.
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u/Rosaadriana Nov 26 '24
He’s bound and determined to crash the economy. It’s will give him an excuse to call martial law or something.
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u/Alia_Explores99 Nov 26 '24
He'll be dead of old age soon anyway, so why would he care? He won office and escaped prison, so now he gets to burn it all down on his way to the grave
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u/CountryFriedSteak78 Nov 26 '24
Wasn’t one of his supposed accomplishments in the last term a new trade agreement with Mexico and Canada?
Bully your ally. Bend over for your enemy. What a joke.
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u/KogasaGaSagasa Nov 26 '24
Well, America's allies with Canada and Mexico. Trump isn't allied with Canada, Mexico, OR America. Trump's allied with Russia, or at least he think he is - He's just an useful tool for Putin, and easily manipulated by anyone else that's got his balls in their hands.
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u/One-Platypus3455 Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24
People don’t understand how much this’ll affect some of the most popular cars.
Toyota Tacoma and RAV4, Lexus RX, Honda HR-V, CR-V and Civic, Mazda 3, Nissan Kicks, Sentra and Versa, few VW and Audi models, etc. lol
Edit: Few GM, Ford and Stellantis models as well, Kia K4, etc.
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u/pa_bourbon Nov 26 '24
Ford and GM assemble quite a few models in Canada and Mexico too. Good luck - these fools will get exactly what they voted for.
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u/Fred-zone Nov 26 '24
We will all get what they voted for, sadly
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u/pa_bourbon Nov 26 '24
Trouble is the rural communities will be hit very hard by this. Less opportunity and these small towns will really suffer if spending dries up. And they overwhelmingly voted red.
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u/Fred-zone Nov 26 '24
Of course. But they don't need to consume goods so long as trans people can't go to the bathroom safely
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u/queuedUp Nov 26 '24
And even the cars built in the US most of the steel is imported from Canada.
Expect those plants to move out of the US taking jobs with them
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u/Redhat1374 Nov 26 '24
Well, Donald Trump just announced his 25% tariff on Mexican imports. In other news, I’ll be expanding the family garden. You should too, if you can.
“Mexico is the leading supplier of fresh vegetables to the United States, providing about three-fourths of the country’s fresh vegetable imports.”
Bring on the scurvy!
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u/Prosthemadera Nov 26 '24
Increasing tariffs on vegetables while also harming domestic farming by deporting cheap labor 👍
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u/QuitCallingNewsrooms Nov 26 '24
You think a 25% tariff on stuff from Mexico and Canada is going to hurt? That’s a mild discomfort, stepping barefoot on an economic LEGO.
Wait til the world says fuck it, America is too volatile and moves away from the dollar as the basis of international trade.
That’s real pain.
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u/SubspaceBiographies Nov 26 '24
Crash the dollar has always been the long term plan.
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u/049AbjectTestament_ Nov 26 '24
Hahahahaha this is the stupidest thing I've ever heard
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u/GeorgeWNorris Nov 26 '24
This is what you voted for Trump voters. You voted for EVERYTHING you buy to be a lot more expensive. Good job guys!
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u/DJEB Nov 26 '24
Canadian here. I knew this was coming. 25%? Well, nothing Canadian get sold there until that idiot is six feet under. Come on cholesterol, stop being so damned lazy.
Time to get the tit-for-tat tariffs going. While we’re at it, Canada First. End American ownership of land in Canada. Time to clean up cottage country.
Enjoy your inflation, America.
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u/AresandAthena123 Nov 26 '24
Make sure you VOTE then if PP gets in we are basically fucked. He will bend over to Trump and ask for it harder. I am not a fan of Trudeau but after this election…I’m terrified of PP
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u/Open_Perception_3212 Nov 26 '24
Hahahahahaha white ladies who voted for tRump are going be paying out the nose for their avocados 🤣🤣
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u/dbuck1964 Nov 26 '24
So that will add roughly $125,000,000,000 in COST, not markup, on those goods. It’s just nice to see it with zeros so we can see how screwed we are as consumers.
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u/BigComfyCouch4 Nov 26 '24
I only have a layman's understanding of this. But I am Canadian and trade issues have made the news here since NAFTA was first pushed nearly 40 years ago.
I believe that under NAFTA, those tariffs collected from Canadian trade will have to be paid to us. So not only will Americans be paying the tariffs via higher prices, but all that money will be going to the Canadian and Mexican governments.
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u/Open_Perception_3212 Nov 26 '24
Republicans were the ones who crafted NAFTA, and Bill Clinton told Bush sr. That he would sign it once he took office. Republicans are experts at fleecing their constituents
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u/BigComfyCouch4 Nov 26 '24
It was Reagan and Mulroney who did the deal. We had an election in this country that was essentially a plebiscite on NAFTA in the 80s.
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u/ActuatorSlow7961 Nov 26 '24
how is this supposed to stop fentanyl?
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u/Skwerl87 Nov 26 '24
Hopefully he dies of a cheeseburger induced stroke, sooner rather than later.
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u/chicken_karmajohn Nov 26 '24
It’s almost as if he is trying to intentionally sabotage our country.
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u/DotAppropriate8152 Nov 26 '24
Hahahaha my Albertan idiot friends that wanna kiss the mushroom if this clown. Idiots!
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u/D13s3ll Nov 26 '24
Thanks for voting for this shit Republicans. You all fucked around, now we all get to find out.
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u/frogcatcher52 Nov 26 '24
The Iraq occupation, the Katrina response, and the Great Recession happened the last time a Republican nepo baby got an extra four years to ruin everything. They are the weak men who create the hard times.
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u/-jp- Nov 26 '24
Finally. Someone willing to do what it takes to put a stop to the flow of drugs, fentanyl, and illegal aliens from our eternal enemy… (checks notes) Canada.
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u/gitumumu Nov 26 '24
Isn’t Mexico the #1 trading partner of the state of Texas? I wonder how the MAGA movement in Texas is taking this bit of news.
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u/Dimmestmouse Nov 26 '24
My sisters are just so sure their grocery bills are going down with gas. Trump would never take away their children and grandkids ACA plans, project 2025 was lies, etc.
I know it’s wrong but I will enjoy the leopards feasting on their faux Christian Prosperity Gospel loving smug faces.
I have just bought a bunch of the Trump version of the I did that stickers to give out.
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u/conqr787 Nov 26 '24
It's almost like he's making shit up as he goes. In goes the McDonald's, out comes the tariffs
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u/bmeisler Nov 26 '24
We’re about to have inflation like you’ve never seen before. The biggest and best inflation of all time!
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u/Mediocritologist Nov 26 '24
Posting on his Truth Social platform, Trump said that on the first day of his presidency he will charge Mexico and Canada a 25% tariff on all products coming into the U.S.
I really wish we had a media that could accurately say what is happening. Mexico and Canada don’t get charged a single penny. The companies importing the goods, AKA Americans, are getting that bill. It’s insane the amount of people who don’t know this.
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u/CyberDonSystems Nov 26 '24
Is there a Death Star or something we can torpedo in the exhaust port to end this movie?
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u/BubbhaJebus Nov 26 '24
I thought Republicans hated taxes. Looks like Republicans are nothing but a bunch of liars. Who knew?
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u/Kurovi_dev Nov 26 '24
Shit, that may actually be worse than a 60% tariff on China. I was wondering how he would fuck this up and he very well may have managed it.
So this is going to actually help China, hurt our relationship with our closest trade partner and the one we rely upon most, and the only people who will pay are American tax payers.
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u/xxxfashionfreakxxx Nov 26 '24
Wow, he’s going to double down on this? What a dumbass. We’re screwed.
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