r/Firearms 5d ago

Do y’all like my grandfather‘s rat gun? Satire

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u/chauchatbob 5d ago

Unfortunately a felony. Cut down Hamilton no27 rifle into a “pistol” aka an SBR. Doubtful anyone’s gunna care but at the end of the day possession of that is a felony, same charge as an unregistered machine gun.

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u/TheHancock FFL 07 | SOT 02 5d ago

Yeah, I wouldn’t have posted that online for fake updoot points…

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u/Pale_Draft9955 5d ago

The argument could be made that it's a legal pistol, as it no longer has any shoulderable stock and can really only be supported by the hands. If it still had the original stock, then sure, it would be an unregistered SBR.

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u/chauchatbob 5d ago

ATF defines an sbr as any weapon with a barrel under 16” made as rifle or made from a rifle. Even just a barrel with a receiver, no grip or anything, is just as illegal. Just the fact it at one point was a rifle means it will always be a rifle, no exceptions.

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u/Pale_Draft9955 5d ago

Never heard of the 'made from a rifle' bit. I knew cutting the barrel (or replacing it with a shorter one, in the case of an AR) makes it into an SBR. I've always just assumed so long as it was made so it wasn't shoulderable, it would technically be considered a pistol at that point.

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u/chauchatbob 5d ago

Once a rifle always a rifle with some BS exclusions. Mainly things like TC pistol/rifles with interchangeable barrels and wood, unique carbine kits which take a short little .22/.32 pistol and make it a rifle, ok to convert back to a pistol. pistol-rifle-pistol that’s fine, rifle-pistol hard stop you’re done.

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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 1911, The one TRUE pistol. 4d ago

It's actually STARTS as a rifle.

You can go pistol, rifle, pistol all day long.

You can't go rifle, pistol, rifle. That's a NFA violation.

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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 1911, The one TRUE pistol. 4d ago

Wouldn't it be an SBS?

You can't start with a rifle and end up with a pistol, without involving the ATF and the NFA.

Same for a SBS. You can't start with a shotgun and end up with a pistol.