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u/Dave_A_Computer 3d ago
Gentle reminder to all current breeding Autists;
Please place "No Flash Photography" stickers on all of your unregistered NFA items before passing them on to your Wife's Boyfriend's Kids.
Or don't, I'm not a cop
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u/ItalianMeatBoi 3d ago
It’s not mine nor is it in my possession 🤷♂️
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u/Dave_A_Computer 3d ago
Rip Grandpa, Grandma, and their dogs
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u/skyXforge 3d ago
Ain’t no way that has a stamp lol. Bad day to be a rat though.
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u/ItalianMeatBoi 3d ago
It’s my grandfather’s, he made it before I was alive. So yeah probably no stamp
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u/ReactionAble7945 3d ago
Depending on your age that may be before NFA applies. 1898
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u/255001434 3d ago
Does this mean that the NFA doesn't apply to guns made before 1898?
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u/jezjoey 3d ago
Yes because there not considered guns
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u/chauchatbob 3d ago
No, they’re no longer subject to the 68 GCA. NFA still covers antique cartridge guns. Only those that are A: Pre-99 and B: antiquated firing system are exempt from both. IE: a trapdoor rifle in .50-70 or .45-70 is not subject to GCA but still NFA if cut down, but one in .58 Rimfire would be exempt from both as it fires an antiquated cartridge. Same with pinfires, teatfires, etc.
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u/TargetOfPerpetuity 3d ago
teatfires
The hell you say to me?
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u/Mountianman1991 3d ago
If I am not mistaken, its the same concept as rimfire, but the case doesn't have a full rim. Think a .22lr with 80-90% of the rim removed. There was a lot of crazy ideas when self contained cartridges first started out. Most died out pretty quick.
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u/TargetOfPerpetuity 2d ago
I was mostly just being a middle-schooler again, but yeah, it's fun to look at all the old methods of solving the same/similar problems -- puckel-guns, paper patch bullets, hexagonal bullets, needle rifles, pinfires, massive rimfire cartridges... to gyrojets, flechette rounds, quadrangle buckshot.... all the wild and crazy evolution that brought us to the golden age of firearms technology we're in now. And 15 years ago people were talking about how there was really no need to develop any new cartridges (ha!).
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u/chauchatbob 3d ago
Unfortunately a felony. Cut down Hamilton no27 rifle into a “pistol” aka an SBR. Doubtful anyone’s gunna care but at the end of the day possession of that is a felony, same charge as an unregistered machine gun.
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u/TheHancock FFL 07 | SOT 02 3d ago
Yeah, I wouldn’t have posted that online for fake updoot points…
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u/Pale_Draft9955 3d ago
The argument could be made that it's a legal pistol, as it no longer has any shoulderable stock and can really only be supported by the hands. If it still had the original stock, then sure, it would be an unregistered SBR.
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u/chauchatbob 3d ago
ATF defines an sbr as any weapon with a barrel under 16” made as rifle or made from a rifle. Even just a barrel with a receiver, no grip or anything, is just as illegal. Just the fact it at one point was a rifle means it will always be a rifle, no exceptions.
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u/Pale_Draft9955 3d ago
Never heard of the 'made from a rifle' bit. I knew cutting the barrel (or replacing it with a shorter one, in the case of an AR) makes it into an SBR. I've always just assumed so long as it was made so it wasn't shoulderable, it would technically be considered a pistol at that point.
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u/chauchatbob 3d ago
Once a rifle always a rifle with some BS exclusions. Mainly things like TC pistol/rifles with interchangeable barrels and wood, unique carbine kits which take a short little .22/.32 pistol and make it a rifle, ok to convert back to a pistol. pistol-rifle-pistol that’s fine, rifle-pistol hard stop you’re done.
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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 1911, The one TRUE pistol. 2d ago
It's actually STARTS as a rifle.
You can go pistol, rifle, pistol all day long.
You can't go rifle, pistol, rifle. That's a NFA violation.
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u/Ornery_Secretary_850 1911, The one TRUE pistol. 2d ago
Wouldn't it be an SBS?
You can't start with a rifle and end up with a pistol, without involving the ATF and the NFA.
Same for a SBS. You can't start with a shotgun and end up with a pistol.
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u/Putrid_Sink_3545 3d ago
This gun appears in every nightmare I have when I open the safe looking for a gun, this is it.
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u/AcidActually Glock17 3d ago
Is it called a rat gun cause the gun looks like if a rat was a gun?
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u/Paladin_Aranaos 3d ago
If Pestilence of the 4 horseman carried a sidearm, it would look like that.
That being said, it's interesting
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u/556Jeeper 3d ago
If you're wondering what a gun with a body count looked like.....you can stop wondering
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u/ExplanationMaster634 3d ago
Grandpa had a Past Definitely would be unassailable if I was gonna show pics of parts gun Just remember we aren’t the only one who are members of this and all the pew pew groups
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u/Incoming_RPG shotgun 1d ago
Looks like something me and my siblings would find in my grandpa’s rotting chicken-barns, back in the 90s. Good memories.
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u/hueynot 3d ago
“We have guns at home”
….the guns at home