r/DebateCommunism 6d ago

The "state" may be required. Unmoderated

Communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless, society, a utopia one may add. Unfortunately, I believe we may need the "state". Now, it ultimately depends on how one defines the "state", however if one of the key factors of the state is a military, police, armed forces, ect. I am here to state that we may require said forces to defend ourselves and expand our civilization against other species. This is unironic.

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u/Muuro 6d ago

As I said it's an instrument of class power. The State is defined by the oppression of one class over another.

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u/OkManufacturer8561 6d ago

How, does one class oppress the other though; is my question. How?

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u/spookyjim___ ☭ left communist ☭ 5d ago

Through the instruments of the standing army and police forces, a whole complex system of contracts and laws upholding the bourgeois order of things, and some sort of layer of bureaucracy to manage the whole thing

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u/OkManufacturer8561 5d ago

Alas! My question is answered. Now, assuming we encounter a threat to our dominance in the galaxy (if we reach such a level), would the state form once again in defense against opposing species from other worlds?

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u/spookyjim___ ☭ left communist ☭ 5d ago

I’m not going to entertain sci-fi fantasies