r/DebateAnAtheist 9d ago

Materialism is Debunked OP=Theist

Lawrence Anthony, a conservationist, had a close freindship with a herd of elephant at his game reserve in Africa. He had rescued and rehabilitated them and over time, they developed a trust.

Lawrence Anthony died in 2012. Two days after the elephant herd led by the matriarch traveled 12 miles to his home. They stayed there for two days, mourning as they do their dead.

The elephants had no material way of knowing about Lawrence's passing. There were no phone call, no messages, and no visible signs for them.

After this, the elephants returned again exactly one year later.

https://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/saying-goodbye-elephants-hold-apparent-vigil-to-mourn-their-human-friend.ht

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/mind-blowing-power-of-love-20100925-15rl7.html

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u/notaedivad 9d ago

Aren't you a little old to believe in magic?

When do you grow up?

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u/Lugh_Intueri 9d ago

What is magic? I thought it meant not real

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u/notaedivad 9d ago

Yes, magic isn't real.

But you also believe in telepathy...

Yes I think telepathic.

Magical nonsense.

Aren't you a little told to believe in magic?

When do you grow up?

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u/Lugh_Intueri 9d ago

Explain to me how wave-particle duality and the collapse of the wave function doesn't meet your use of the word magic for any reason besides being real?

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u/notaedivad 8d ago

Because it's consistently able to be demonstrated. It is an observation we have made about the universe, and have come to this conclusion based on the evidence.

The same cannot be said for magic or religion. They are delusional nonsense with no basis in reality.

The difference between wishing something is true, and showing that something is true.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 8d ago

I said telepothy. Why are you moving moving the goal post

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u/notaedivad 8d ago

Lying doesn't help your argument. It just makes you a liar.

This is what you wrote:

Yes I think telepathic.

Then you wrote:

I said telepothy. Why are you moving moving the goal post

  1. What is telepothy? Do you mean telepathy?

  2. Can you demonstrate how telepathy works without relying on "magic"?

  3. How am I moving the goalposts?

  4. Aren't you a little told to believe in magic? When do you grow up?

We both know you won't answer all four questions.

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u/Lugh_Intueri 8d ago

The same cannot be said for magic or religion. They are delusional nonsense with no basis in reality.

I said telepathy. Why move the goal post

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u/soukaixiii Anti religion\ Agnostic Adeist| Gnostic Atheist|Mythicist 8d ago

Telepathy is a subset of magic

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u/soukaixiii Anti religion\ Agnostic Adeist| Gnostic Atheist|Mythicist 8d ago

Your lack of understanding of physics don't make physics be magic. Physics is material.