Materialism is Debunked

[u/Lugh_Intueri]

Lawrence Anthony, a conservationist, had a close freindship with a herd of elephant at his game reserve in Africa. He had rescued and rehabilitated them and over time, they developed a trust.

Lawrence Anthony died in 2012. Two days after the elephant herd led by the matriarch traveled 12 miles to his home. They stayed there for two days, mourning as they do their dead.

The elephants had no material way of knowing about Lawrence's passing. There were no phone call, no messages, and no visible signs for them.

After this, the elephants returned again exactly one year later.

https://www.cbc.ca/strombo/news/saying-goodbye-elephants-hold-apparent-vigil-to-mourn-their-human-friend.ht

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/mind-blowing-power-of-love-20100925-15rl7.html

[u/Lugh_Intueri]

We don't have to know how it works to observe the reality of it. Common I science. Wave-particle duality and collapse of the wave function.

Why play these games?

[u/vanoroce14 → u/Lugh_Intueri]

I'm not the one playing games. You're the one who is. You're jumping the gun based on a story you read.

We don't have to know how it works to observe the reality of it.

No, we kinda do have to know how it works. This is why the spiritual and the paranormal has been stuck at 'woah man, that must have been spirits!' for thousands of years. Because well... when we look closely, there's never anything there.

So no, yeah... cool story, but now you gotta research how telepathy in pachyderms works. Sounds like it would revolutionize many things!

[u/Lugh_Intueri → u/vanoroce14]

What abou wave particle duality and collapse of the wave function

[u/vanoroce14 → u/Lugh_Intueri]

What about it? You... know that's physics, right? So... material?

[u/Lugh_Intueri → u/vanoroce14]

You said

we kinda do have to know how it works

[u/vanoroce14 → u/Lugh_Intueri]

We do not know that telepathy works by 'wave particles duality' or whatever quantum thing you're spitballing.

You seem to be confused about what 'knowing how something works' entails. You'd need to formalize your hypothesis and conduct many experiments to confirm it.

[u/dwb240 → u/vanoroce14]

OP probably read up on telepathy from Dr. Charles Xavier, then turned the page and read up on quantum physics as presented by Dr. Hank McCoy.

[u/GamerEsch → u/dwb240]

read up on quantum physics as presented by Dr. Hank McCoy.

Oh that explains it, OP must have confused "big blue gorilas" (a strange obsession of Dr. Hank) with elephants.