Shouldn't atheists refuse meaning in life and accept its inherently bad ?

[u/efilist_sentientist]

Atheism arises from rationality i.e logic. If God doesn't exist (obviously doesn't) then you can't say there is a grand plan ! Existence is just pointless. In a pointless existence we have wars, crimes, predation, natural disasters, torture, exploitation and slavery, accidents, diseases and many more inevitable sufferings going on. Nobody can stop these these are inevitable.

Can you deny these facts ? If not then the only rational solution for existence is extinctionism. Extinction of all conscious sentient living beings. As rationalists you must agree to that ?

[u/MoneyIsTheRootOfFun]

Premise: existence is pointless.
Argument: suffering happens.
Conclusion: existence is bad for some reason, and we should just want to die?

Most people don’t feel that their existence is pointless, even if there is no overarching meaning or purpose to everything. I feel a sense of meaning in caring for my family, raising my children, and working to achieve other personal goals. Why would I want to end that? Because I might suffer? Unless I’m in constant agony, I’m cool with continuing to live for a while.

So, bad premise. No real argument. Conclusion does not follow from either.

[u/efilist_sentientist → u/MoneyIsTheRootOfFun]

Feelings intuition emotions want etc are not good arguments. Logic is !

[u/Urbenmyth → u/efilist_sentientist]

Emotions are a good argument when discussing what states people should prefer - indeed, it's hard to see how you could argue that without emotions.