r/DebateAnAtheist Sep 23 '24

Shouldn't atheists refuse meaning in life and accept its inherently bad ? Philosophy

Atheism arises from rationality i.e logic. If God doesn't exist (obviously doesn't) then you can't say there is a grand plan ! Existence is just pointless. In a pointless existence we have wars, crimes, predation, natural disasters, torture, exploitation and slavery, accidents, diseases and many more inevitable sufferings going on. Nobody can stop these these are inevitable.

Can you deny these facts ? If not then the only rational solution for existence is extinctionism. Extinction of all conscious sentient living beings. As rationalists you must agree to that ?

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u/Pandoras_Boxcutter Sep 23 '24

Existence is just pointless

Why would that be? Just because there's no creator doesn't mean life can't be meaningful.

 In a pointless existence we have wars, crimes, predation, natural disasters, torture, exploitation and slavery, accidents, diseases and many more inevitable sufferings going on

If you're a theist, those things are happening regardless. What's God's excuse?

Nobody can stop these these are inevitable.

We can stop some of them at least some of the time.

 If not then the only rational solution for existence is extinctionism.

Why?

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u/efilist_sentientist Sep 23 '24

1) What is it ? What is that meaning?

2) I'm atheist.

3) Stopping them some of the time is not a good excuse. Because it's actually saying that children might get ra*ed some of the times.

4) 3 is why !

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u/MagicMusicMan0 Sep 23 '24

Why are you censoring yourself? 

But life actually doesn't need meaning to be preserved, it needs value. It has value to me because I prefer to live and I want other things to live as well.

Why would 3 be bad if life has no value?

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u/Pandoras_Boxcutter Sep 23 '24

What is it ? What is that meaning?

Depends on who you ask. Me? I like living for my family and enjoying time with friends, when I can.

Stopping them some of the time is not a good excuse. Because it's actually saying that children might get ra*ed some of the times.

Ah, I think I'm getting where you're coming from now. You believe that the suffering of the human race cannot justify its continued existence? Are you advocating for the slow extinction of the human race via not making more children (i.e. antinatalism), or are you suggesting full-blown human genocide?

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u/roseofjuly Atheist Secular Humanist Sep 23 '24

But that is reality. Children do get raped some of the time. We would like to prevent all of them, but we haven't figured out a way to do that.

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u/Extinction_For_All Sep 23 '24

Making everyone extinct is the way.