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Musk Critics Including Laura Loomer Claim Censorship on X, Loss of X Badges Flaired Users Only

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u/DownrightCaterpillar Conservative 4d ago

who will likely serve the nation’s interest extraordinarily well? Where is the issue? 

The issue is the lie that you're spreading. Most of these 2nd generation immigrant households barely erase the debt that they imposed on society as children. And when you realize that the estimates we have don't account for the extra cost of providing them ESL classes, you'll realize that they don't even cover the costs of their own education.

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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 4d ago

Congratulations for discovering that educating new workers costs money.

People over the course of their life obviously build more wealth and contribute more to society than any ESL education costs. You’re also acting like the HB1 immigrants somehow don’t already speak English. I live in a town where a significant part of the population are second generation Indian children. Their parents knew at least some English when they got here and their children are all fluent and barely needed ESL. The majority of them are at good universities and on their way to contributing to society. The cost of educating them in English was virtually zero. Their parents have to know English to work here. How the hell are you working at an American company at a high level and not know English? It doesn’t exist. Their children are taught English by the parents and if they need supplementary ESL classes, it will only be necessary for a year or two.

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u/DownrightCaterpillar Conservative 4d ago

Also, I feel this should be addressed:

You’re also acting like the HB1 immigrants somehow don’t already speak English. I live in a town where a significant part of the population are second generation Indian children. Their parents knew at least some English when they got here and their children are all fluent and barely needed ESL. The majority of them are at good universities and on their way to contributing to society. The cost of educating them in English was virtually zero. Their parents have to know English to work here. How the hell are you working at an American company at a high level and not know English? It doesn’t exist.

They're not working at a high level lol. I think you've genuinely misunderstood this issue, probably due to being too emotionally invested in it. You're thinking about those on something like an O visa. Please stop thinking about personal acquaintances, the lowest form of evidence, and instead look here for example: https://x.com/Butters09016449/status/1872393436407767065

This is just a small snapshot of the jobs which H1-B visa holders can receive. "Associate Analyst," "Associate QA Engineer" (lol) these are recent college grad jobs at best. You're not working at a "high level" at all. And you can definitely function on a subpar level of English when your department is filled by people from exactly the same country as you.

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u/Running_Gamer Conservative 4d ago

A college grad level job is not working at a high level? You’d think that having the equivalent of a four year degree without the country having to invest in educating you would be considered good for the country.

You don’t know how the real world works. Working at an American company without speaking at least semi fluent English is borderline impossible. Nobody will hire you because you won’t be able to be communicated with during the interview stage. You’re just making things up.