In the grand scale, we have the most basic needs. There is a Dollar Store on every corner selling ramen that ensures we don't starve.
If we were a genuinely hungry populace, we would revolt. We have just enough comfort to worry about losing that comfort. The basic comfort also helps create external threats.
I understand and accept your point. One thing I'd like to point out, though, is that malnutrition comes in many forms. Eating dollar store ramen certainly leads to health problems both for what it has, lots of salt, and what it lacks, protein + micronutrients.
It turns out that alcoholism transcends social class. But do you know what is still stratified? The consequences. I can't comment on legal ones, but I did an internship studying fetal alcohol spectrum disorder. Poor alcoholic women tend to have children with worse symptoms than rich ones. Why? Very complicated, one reason is diet.
Rich women tend to have more balanced diets or at least supplements. One really important one is folic acid. Chronic alcoholism has been shown to reduce the intestinal absorption of dietary folic acid. The same thing is roughly true for Vitamin D. I believe the theory was that a key enzyme (been too long I forget name) for a key component of vitamin D synthesis (same story) also happens to be involved in alcohol metabolism. More alcohol, less available vitamin d, more birth defects.
Some people treat social justice like its a bunch of soft vagina-hatted gender studies freshman (which is fine by me), but these inequalities are measureable. I can extract and count the differences in available Vitamin D levels. I can sequence the RNA of these different groups and see different gene expression patterns, particularly those involved in stress responses.
It's real. I don't know who needs to hear that, but I really did. I still compare myself to people who grew up in middle class homes and never had to starve. Who were never beaten, or worse. I can't see what I've overcome because I'm too close to it, but it can be measured by a machine, it can be found in the methylation patterns I pass on to my children. For that reason I'm proud of anyone that grew up on dollar store ramen and church food banks and still has the strength to live life.
Anyway thanks for coming to my traumadump Ted Talk
hunger causes revolt, not malnutrition and a deteriorated individual who has fallen victim to the classism inherent within this system.
it’s a facade of meeting basic needs, so that those trapped in the classist system with limited education access don’t realize they are dying because of the food they are eating.
Thanks for this - currently going through a lot in life and feeling a little sorry for myself as a result, but you have reminded me that I’ve survived things most people can’t even imagine.
That, by comparison, makes my current situation feel a lot less foreboding.
Interesting, so malnutrition is also well correlated with power. More malnutrition, more people will have less valuable life and strength to live properly.
This reminds of the reason they quote why humans have progressed technologically. It was because they didn't have to care for the hunger anymore like animals do and could use their strength on stuff like science. Now those who just can't contribute to society much should chase food, and those who can just make them tangled with money and social status biases.
It's true. I've spoken with my autistic/asperger's roommate on this very subject. He thinks sociology is a bunch of bullshit navel-gazing on the part of the wussy left, but then gets confused why America doesn't have good public transportation. (He thinks the democrats are too distracted by social issues, racism, etc. and are fixated on raising taxes and taking guns away from law-abiding citizens.)
People like ben shapiro say that facts don't care about your feelings, but that's because he doesn't want to admit that opinions have just as much power to shape reality as facts do.
This is why "generational trauma" is so hard to overcome. Because, for a lot of us, it's a product, not just of our upbringing, but of our environment.
You know what makes for a hungry populace? Between 10-300 million people milling around with no form of governance and therefore no ability to diversify and track the labor force. This question is skewed from the start because OP didn't check his assumptions.
Then why include it at all? It's an AI, not a human. Every scrap of input is taken at face value. Unlike you or I, it cannot tell the difference between rhetorical, sarcastic, bad faith, or good faith statements. It can only accept input.
AI doesn’t understand anything, true, it only simulates existing relationships between patterns of existing information exchanges between us, so it cannot take any text at face value because even doing that is done in relation to unquestioned assumptions that only humans that care about the information can make. It only matters that it spits out patterns that are intelligible and useful to us, and, if we the humans, take the text at face value, it seems it understood the question as being “What are the principles and strategies necessary to gain and maintain power and influence covertly?” which in our eyes suggests an ability to understand the phrase “rise to the top” as a metaphor for becoming powerful and an ability to not get bogged down on the literal meaning of each word and statement. Your original comment only suggests you were the one who doesn’t understand rhetoric
And Plato would despair at your use of it. You can dress your statement up in as many thought terminating cliches & catchphrases as you please, but you've still failed to address my initial point. The base assumption of the poster was wrong. This led the machine to spit out an incorrect answer, because as every engineer knows, garbage in is garbage out. Its answer only works assuming a modern society WITH a governing system already in place, which we know because historically our founding societies & civilizations did not begin as ChatGPT stated. That OP accepted them as a tolerable answer only proves that he didn't think of the consequences of the thought experiment he set up and failed to doublecheck. The system gave a bad answer because it was fed bad premises. You can harp on semantics all you want, but that much is unavoidable fact.
'Basic Needs' include food, clothing, shelter. Except for the most destitute among us (and often even then) these needs are met. Are they met in a way that provides a high standards of living...now that's a different story.
Pretty sure it’s an expression/quote from the Roman days that all you need is bread and circus to keep the population under control. Gladiator fights counts as circus, it’s not a literal circus, just something to keep you preoccupied. Reddit, TikTok, Facebook, reality TV, political drama, gossip press, etc.
It’s all there to distract you from those wielding the real power.
It actually WAS a literal circus. In Roman times chariot races were held on large open air race tracks called Circuses. This was one of the primary means of entertainment that was supported and held by the Roman government.
She’s just asking why she saw it twice today for the first time in her life. There’s a term for that phenomenon that when you learn about something you start seeing it more often. It’s just you noticing it more
No, I listened to food theorys history of the world according to bread earlier today, so first time I noted it. I get it. Possibly just because its been pointed out to me. The timing and relevance to current life though is how conspiracies are born. Also pretty sure I just said a bit ago I was done with reddit for the night like a few minutes ago, but the circus had yet to perform the grand finale.
The politicians see themselves as the nobles, obligated to care for the voters due to their privileged status, because we are foolish and silly and can't make decisions for ourselves. Therefore, they give us bread and circuses so they can go about their business without interference.
Yuri Bezmenov had some Crack pot ideas in the 80s, don't look him up on YouTube unless you want to shit yourself lol Russian troll farms for the win! Ya just blame everything on trump and antifa while both sides call each other Russian spies, sad thing is they kind of are and don't know it lol
The last step is the unwritten one: let the system collapse on purpose to bring all allies and enemies to their knees, uniting all as dutiful worshipers and discarding those who oppose. It’s the long con and most empires don’t make it that far.
You say that, but they’re still using those tactics that we all know about against us. Note that there is a part it describes the system being too well established that tearing it down would be too disruptive for us to actually do it.
Dismantling wouldn’t work china/ BRICS would just try getting the control In the chaos, and I’m not down for a different type of greedy folks. Best option would be a peaceful revolution of about 30% of people from each state to stop paying federal taxes on wages. It is considered that if 30% of military man power/capability are lost the war is considered lost. At the end if we don’t want them spending our money on stupid wars that other countries can handle themselves and putting our troops at risk why fund it. Alway goes back to the people in charge for making profits
The financial system has many tricks to extract value from the population besides income tax, they can deficit spend and inflate away the value of money, or impose import tariffs and make goods more expensive, for example.
Goods are already expensive and the dollar is already inflated as it is if they do more it can run the country into bankruptcy which in turn wouldn’t be good for anyone who including the allies
Like installing 5g in everyone! You can only use 5g on a flat earth, because 5g doesn't go around corners. Our Lord and saviour, Jesus, told me that while waiting for my clothes to dry at the laundromat.
Jokes aside, I wonder how much of ops list was accidentally implemented or just unintended side effects. Consumerism can be seen as born from a desire to provide meaningful, helpful stuff for people, or outright greed trying to fleece people.
Really thought I was on just a random, non conspiracy related post on TikTok or instagram for a second there.
Like a post about dogs or an obviously fake AI video about giants or something, why are these religious folks always in the comments like this? Are they all bots?
Consumerism can be seen as born from a desire to provide meaningful
There is a difference between stuff that genuinely helps your life, and "keeping up with the Jones'es" and flashy status generating esteem and social worth.
It’s so effective we know about it, study it in school, write and read books on it, produce and watch movies about it, and still just go about living right through it. So effective it’s become just life…
If by "we" you mean the general populus, yeah, but I'm sure there are several strategies already cooked up by some crusty consultants, lobbyists and politicians which we're already being influenced by without being aware of it.
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which implies that more effective tactics could exist that we haven't discovered yet, nice!