r/AskThe_Donald discord.gg/saveamerica Mar 17 '23

πŸ€πŸ€ Shoutout to the Irish! πŸ€πŸ€ πŸ“© Social Media πŸ“©

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u/PookieTea NOVICE Mar 17 '23

What part of β€œcame to the US for a better life” would imply that they were shipped over as part of the transatlantic slave trade? The first part of that sentence is referring to some event that occurred in Ireland before they started migrating to the US. You can argue over the historical accuracy of whether they were β€œenslaved” while in Ireland but you cannot argue that this somehow implies that they were part of the transatlantic slave trade.

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u/bloodredcookie NOVICE Mar 18 '23

So why bring it up at all then, unless you're alluding to the 'enslaved Irish brought to America' myth? It would be like telling the story of Columbus, then also mentioning your favorite brand of soap as a part of the story. It's a total non-sequitur unless it's meant to play into the overall story. Historically speaking, the Irish were more often slavers than enslaved so if it's not a reference to the myth then it makes even less sense.

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u/[deleted] Mar 19 '23

You brought up the transatlantic slave trade, in response to everyone else talking about the Irish being slaves, and then moving to America to escape it.

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u/bloodredcookie NOVICE Mar 19 '23

Slavery is literally in the original quote. The only context it makes sense in is transatlantic slave trade (since historically the Irish were infamous slavers, not slaves.)

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

The only context it makes sense in is transatlantic slave trade

No, it literally doesn't make sense to talk about the transatlantic slave trade when talking about the Irish being slaves.

(since historically the Irish were infamous slavers, not slaves.)

You are so full of shit.

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u/bloodredcookie NOVICE Mar 20 '23

You clearly have never studied Irish history. Medieval Ireland was well known for abducting English and Welsh people to sell into slavery, as any historian could tell you. That's the island's main relationship with slavery. (Hell, the legend of St. Patrick is literally about his being taken as a slave to Ireland.)

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

You are clearly full of shit.

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u/bloodredcookie NOVICE Mar 20 '23

And you clearly are unable to refute a single point of mine.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

There's nothing of substance to "refute". You invent bullshit, then make a non-sequitur based on your own bullshit to somehow claim it has to do with the African slave trade.

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u/bloodredcookie NOVICE Mar 20 '23

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23

Wikipedia is a terrible source for anything remotely political.

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u/bloodredcookie NOVICE Mar 20 '23

Good thing the article isn't remotely political. Seriously though, Google it. Prove me wrong. I would like nothing better.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '23 edited Mar 20 '23

Good thing the article isn't remotely political.

Are you high? Of course it's fucking political.

How haven't you noticed the systematic rewriting of history to paint straight white men in a bad light? Do you have no memory? Wikipedia does it, Google does it, most big tech companies do.

It should be blatantly obvious Wikipedia does it after what they did with their Gamergate article.

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