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r/Anticonsumption • u/Zxasuk31 • Jan 01 '24
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Hawaiian bird extinction peaked around the 50’s gee, I wonder why, and has largely been stable since
169 u/[deleted] Jan 01 '24 Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then? Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959, so shouldn't it peak in the 60s? 38 u/ToothsomeBirostrate Jan 01 '24 Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then? He made that number up because it fits an /r/AmericaBad narrative. The 1950s aren't very notable on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene People don't like hearing this, but outdoor cats are the largest source of human-caused bird deaths. They kill Billions of birds every year in the US, especially ground-nesting birds. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380 At the end of the day, Hawaii is responsible for managing it's own ecosystem. Tourists don't vote. 3 u/[deleted] Jan 01 '24 Cats, rats, snakes, ants.
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Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then? Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959, so shouldn't it peak in the 60s?
38 u/ToothsomeBirostrate Jan 01 '24 Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then? He made that number up because it fits an /r/AmericaBad narrative. The 1950s aren't very notable on this list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene People don't like hearing this, but outdoor cats are the largest source of human-caused bird deaths. They kill Billions of birds every year in the US, especially ground-nesting birds. https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380 At the end of the day, Hawaii is responsible for managing it's own ecosystem. Tourists don't vote. 3 u/[deleted] Jan 01 '24 Cats, rats, snakes, ants.
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Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then?
He made that number up because it fits an /r/AmericaBad narrative. The 1950s aren't very notable on this list:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene
People don't like hearing this, but outdoor cats are the largest source of human-caused bird deaths. They kill Billions of birds every year in the US, especially ground-nesting birds.
https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380
At the end of the day, Hawaii is responsible for managing it's own ecosystem. Tourists don't vote.
3 u/[deleted] Jan 01 '24 Cats, rats, snakes, ants.
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Cats, rats, snakes, ants.
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u/Fantastic_Goat_2959 Jan 01 '24
Hawaiian bird extinction peaked around the 50’s
gee, I wonder why, and has largely been stable since