r/Anticonsumption • u/Zxasuk31 • Jan 01 '24

Is tourism becoming toxic? Environment

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '24

Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then? Hawaii didn't become a state until 1959, so shouldn't it peak in the 60s?

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u/ToothsomeBirostrate Jan 01 '24

Is there a lore reason why Hawaii bird extinction peaked back then?

He made that number up because it fits an /r/AmericaBad narrative. The 1950s aren't very notable on this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hawaiian_animals_extinct_in_the_Holocene

People don't like hearing this, but outdoor cats are the largest source of human-caused bird deaths. They kill Billions of birds every year in the US, especially ground-nesting birds.

https://www.nature.com/articles/ncomms2380

At the end of the day, Hawaii is responsible for managing it's own ecosystem. Tourists don't vote.

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u/Half_Cent Jan 01 '24

So is it your personal belief that the natives of North America, Hawaii, the Philippines and various other countries begged the US to occupy their lands, take their resources and leave their cultures in shambles? Cause I don't get what your point is.

Also, cats aren't native to Hawaii.

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u/Half_Cent Jan 01 '24

I don't disagree his comment lacks evidence, I was mostly reacting to the crybaby threads after following your link, which doesn't really have anything to do with this thread. So I'll stop interacting here.