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Preliminary investigation confirms Russian missile caused Azerbaijan Airlines crash Russia/Ukraine

https://www.euronews.com/2024/12/26/exclusive-preliminary-investigation-confirms-russian-missile-over-grozny-caused-aktau-cras
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u/defroach84 3d ago edited 2d ago

The fact that they jammed the gps, refused them an airport to land in, and then told them to fly over the sea, seems like they definitely wanted it to crash into the water so that it would be much easier to cover up.

Instead, they now have all the evidence, and it's out there in the open immediately.

Edit: changed radar to gps.

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u/Junior_Bear_2715 3d ago edited 2d ago

However I am afraid Russia will still pressure people on this issue to cover up. Kazakh officials already arrested a blogger who filmed plane crash for example, what was the reason for arresting him though?

I got a reply for my question:

"You don't understand. Sarsenov was reportedly at the crash scene and, despite the area being cordoned off by authorities, used a drone and a mobile phone to capture footage. You cannot allow unofficial personnel or civilians to crowd the space of a crash, Russia would use this to send 95 randoms with drones to fly around it for 3 months until the wreck was taken over by slavic squatters."

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u/BenjiSBRK 3d ago

I mean, they're currently invading a country, I don't think they care about the public opinion on gunning down a commercial airplane.

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u/Euan_whos_army 3d ago

But maybe countries that are currently neutral on Russia will now start to avoid airspace controlled by Russia. Particularly Turkish Airlines, if they were to now avoid flying in Russian airspace, it would be a serious barrier for Russians access to Europe.

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u/SuperJetShoes 2d ago

My son flies Boeing 777s for BA. He is prohibited from going anywhere near Russian airspace, and says the Russian GPS jamming often bleeds over into other countries, especially in the EU.

He says they don't actually "jam" it (i.e. by destructive interference), the technique they use is to broadcast simulated GPS signals (which are naturally quite weak) at a higher amplitude. Therefore the plane "hears" the fake signals rather than the real signals. The "fake" signals give a false position; the plane thinks it's hundreds of miles from where it is.

He says it's not really a problem. These days there are so many other ways of positioningn(cell towers with fixed locations, radio antennae with fixed locations, other satellites, ACARS, ILS systems and transponders of all kinds)

All that all that happens is this: the plane blinks a warning saying "GPS Anomaly" (or a similar term, can't quite remember) so they just turn it off for a bit and have a cup of tea.

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u/AnyLack9626 1d ago

Oh oh my my oohh