r/unitedkingdom • u/RandomUsername1604 • 25d ago

Police officers say cannabis is effectively ‘decriminalised’ in the UK .

https://www.leafie.co.uk/news/police-cannabis-decriminalised-survey/

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Yes I know I have a prescription. It’s very easy to go through the NHS for any problems you might have like insomnia, pain, mental health. As long as you have tried to address it then you can be approved. I imagine most people with those conditions will have sought help from the NHS at some stage.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Cannabis is emphatically not, a treatment for poor mental health.

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u/Soggy-Temperature744 25d ago

Haha wrong! I’m prescribed it for mental health/mood disorder :)

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Snap lol - literally a cornerstone of my prescription is addressing anxiety and insomnia symptoms from autism

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Yes. There is a lot of poor prescribing going on.

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Thank you Dr Exact-Put-6961, can’t believe I can get a diagnosis and medical advice from you for free on Reddit. True charity work

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u/sobrique 25d ago

TBH that's not too far from how some of the online prescribers work. (It's just not free!)

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u/Haddos_Attic 25d ago edited 25d ago

It is prescribed for a number of conditions that can be described as poor mental health (OCD, PTSD, anxiety and depression).

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Yep no doubt it is but the NHS does not do it, prescribing there has to be ethical The clinical literature supporting conditions for which cannabis or cannabis based meds are a sound choice, is remarkably thin, despite millions spent on research.

Medipot is oversold, very deliberately.

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u/Haddos_Attic 25d ago

Nevertheless, it emphatically is a treatment for poor mental health.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Well maybe you could evidence that with some peer reviewed science. Its thin.

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u/Haddos_Attic 25d ago

I don't need to provide a source, it would take you seconds to find the list of mental health conditions treated with cannabis.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Well there we are. I know the literature on Cannabis quite well.

There is a lot of over claiming.

There is a lot of denial about mental ill health, hyperemisis, carcinogenesis and teratogenesis.

Have a look yoirself.

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u/Haddos_Attic 25d ago

Nevertheless...etc

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Ironically you sound like more of a stoner than the rest of us…

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u/ComputerJerk Hampshire 25d ago

I made the mistake of engaging with this account elsewhere in the subreddit. Now I have it tagged as:

A bot or a sealioning wanker

... In bright pink so I won't waste my time again 😅

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u/FearLeadsToAnger 25d ago

this is pretty funny that you gave no source and are now asking for sources. You're terrible at this.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Source for what?

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u/FearLeadsToAnger 25d ago

I agree, you didn't really have a point. Good that you can acknowledge that.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

If you want a source for anything i say, normallly i have provided one somewhere in the sub.

I dont keep posting the same links. I expect but do not always get, a reasonable level of intelligence from others. Even the ability to use one click and a question via a search engine, seems beyond many.

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

That’s so strange it helps mine in a much better way than anti-depressants did without side effects of insomnia etc.

Bit of a blanket statement to say “poor mental health” - what do you mean? Psychosis? Obviously not a good idea there but if we’re talking anxiety as a side effect of other disorders then why wouldn’t it be a tool to help someone if it sits well with them? We acknowledge that anti depressants don’t work for everyone and that even may cause negative side effects in some why can’t we recognise other substances fall under the same?

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

As a TREATMENT for poor mental health, Cannabis is too unpredictable. Of course Cannabis frequently CAUSES mental health problems too.

There is undoubtedly a lot of self medication of troubled minds using cannabis, it rarely turns out well. Cannabis taken over a long period has other health consequences too.

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Yes I believe alleviating symptoms of a condition is considered a treatment?

These are such wild blanket statements “it rarely turns out well” - again your language suggests that it isn’t a viable option for people. It is an option. Similar to antidepressants for which I’ve had GPs preface “it might not work and we can try a different type of anti depressant”. Understanding how a medication interacts with your body and mind is an accepted part of prescribing them, pharmacists understand that you MAY not react well to it.

There is a lot of unpredictability with treatment for mental health in general, they literally just realised that depression isn’t a lack of serotonin for a lot of people but were prescribing SSRIs which directly impact the uptake of serotonin with receptors.

“Of course cannabis frequently causes mental health problems too” - again, be specific. Of course it can trigger psychosis in users already predisposed to psychosis such as schizophrenia. As can stress. Regardless it obviously in that case is too much of a risk. As is providing a diabetic with certain medications as they’re predisposed to certain negative outcomes.

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

Cannabis regularly aggravates depression.

Yes. There is an industry of people prepared to try to make Cannabis a miracle drug. The clinical literature supporting that process is remarkable for its thinness.

It reminds me of "snake oil".

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Not once in this whole thread have I ever claimed it’s a miracle drug or akin to any of the claims of snake oil. I’ve actively acknowledged it does not work for everyone and should be monitored similar with traditional medicine.

Beta blockers and benzodiazepines also aggravate or even cause depression symptoms in patients. Did I claim it helps depression? I claimed it alleviates my own symptoms of social anxiety, insomnia, and GAD

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u/Exact-Put-6961 25d ago

There is an industry, is not a reference to you. Dont be so defensive .

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

I’m neither defensive nor psychic, if you don’t communicate the meaning through your words then it’s not reasonable to expect me to have that knowledge.

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u/SetElectronic9050 25d ago

I hear you :) it is and it isn't. It helps alot of people in alot of ways but it isn't a magic cure-all and can certainly make things worse/have side-effects.

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u/sead_VA 25d ago

Yes I believe I acknowledged that - it’s very similar to a lot of medications which will not react well with some people. For others it may be a great option if traditional medication does not react well.