r/technology • u/ardi62 • 1d ago
Mexico tests cellphone app allowing migrants to send alert if they are about to be detained in US Society
https://apnews.com/article/mexico-app-migrants-deportations-consulates-09655e742f2918803881a32620e384ef44
u/Snoogadooch 23h ago
And then?
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u/Nardawalker 21h ago
Right? I guess it will alert the families to start making accommodations for another person to be living with them. Lol
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u/cadrass 20h ago
What a strange thing to do.
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u/brynnnnnn 18h ago
Why not. We have an ice button/ notify X in emergency. They're just giving their citizens another
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u/cadrass 17h ago
Well, these Mexican citizens fled Mexico seeking political asylum in the United States. It seems strange that they would want to alert their oppressors that they were being repatriated. That is a strange thing to ask, and a weird thing for them to do willingly.
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u/brynnnnnn 17h ago
Have they all requested asylum? Even so if they are going to be deported amd Mexico also have to help them with that. It clearly states that they have had to put extra staff on to help with this why wouldn't they want to make things easier.
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u/alangcarter 1d ago
Wow MAGA has just demonstrated that Ophrah thing where you imagine something really hard and it manifests.
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u/BTSavage 1d ago
I think the Mexican authorities are right to be concerned about abuses in the deportations that are coming. This allows migrants to notify authorities when they are detained so there is a record of the detainment. This way, they are less likely to fall through the cracks and be "lost" in the system.
The Trump Administration is going to do what it does (like separate families) and to expect everyone to just go along and not try to hold them to account. This is a tiny attempt to shine a light where Trump & Co. don't want it shone.
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u/Unzipping_Guy 23h ago
How about just don’t cross illegally?
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u/RHouse94 9h ago edited 9h ago
The majority of them are asylum seekers which is not illegal. Undocumented ≠ illegal. If you cross the border without papers and then turn yourself into authorities and ask for asylum it is considered legal.
They are supposed to be detained awaiting trial but we don’t have the resources to deal with the massive influx. So they are given a limited SSN and released while awaiting their m trial. Which can take well over a decade.
There was a bill to fund these systems better so we can get them through faster and detain them while awaiting trial. But the republicans voted against the bill while simultaneously complaining about undocumented immigrants being released and not detained…..
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u/lucimon97 23h ago
Would you tell the family of that dude that got beaten to death by prison guards that he should've just not got put in prison?
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u/robogobo 23h ago
But who’s going to cut your grass?
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u/Alarming-Ad1100 23h ago
You want illegal migrants in America to cut your grass, that’s gross
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u/robogobo 23h ago
Try detecting sarcasm
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u/Friendly-Brother2167 23h ago
I am newer to commenting for a multitude of reasons. I have made it a goal to read the posts and comments of others (mostly) before commenting myself. That is how I analyzed your interactions, and I am mostly confident that you aren’t “gross”. I’d say I agree with your sarcasm and detect a hint of devil’s advocate. Well played.
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u/Michael_0007 22h ago
As a victim of non sarcasm detection, I support this!
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u/Friendly-Brother2167 21h ago
Me enjoying the irony of being downvoted by people who refuse to read any comments I have made. Or maybe they really think I believe our beautiful brown men should be relegated forever after to mowing our lawns. Dunno. I do know it is hard, oftentimes thankless work. There is no “lazy” about it, and I hope they demand a raise.
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u/RdPirate 21h ago
It's not illegal to cross. Just failure to do an administrative step.
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u/Learningstuff247 20h ago
Yeah, failing to do that step makes it illegal ya dingus
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u/RdPirate 19h ago
No it doesn't.
8 U.S. Code § 1325
Is a misdemeanor, with penalties on the level of jaywalking.
And only gets serious for marriage fraud or Immigration-related entrepreneurship fraud.
8 U.S. Code § 1326
Is where the actual criminal shit is at covers deported individuals or people previously refused entry, or some other status.
I am from one of the few nations where it is actually illegal. And here you are lucky if the most they give you is a fine.
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u/ShenAnCalhar92 12h ago
Nobody said it was a felony, they said it was illegal.
There’s a distinction between felonies and misdemeanors, but that distinction is not “crime” vs “not crime” or “illegal” vs “legal”.
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u/timshel42 20h ago
this thread is getting brigaded like crazy
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u/Learningstuff247 20h ago
Brigaded by which side lol
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u/damontoo 1h ago
Seems like the right is trying super hard to control the message but everyone else is doing a good job if shutting them down.
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u/usdrpvvimwfvrzjavnrs 1d ago
Why not make an app that tells people to just migrate legally? Then they won't have to worry about being detained.
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u/tjl435 1d ago
Homan has said multiple times that he would deport mixed-status families, which means that legal migrants and immigrants could be detained as well.
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u/Final21 1d ago
No he hasn't. He has said that if there is an illegal that is to be deported and there are family members that are legal they can choose to go with the illegal that is deported. They don't have to break up families if they don't want to.
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u/tjl435 1d ago
Sure, but those legal migrants will very likely be detained (even if briefly) in the process of figuring out who does and does not have status. This app just allows them to notify the Mexican consulate + their families that this is happening to them.
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u/Final21 23h ago
If a US citizen breaks the law and goes to jail, why don't people whine and complain that we are taking a father/mother away from their family? Why do people only complain when it's breaking immigration law?
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u/tjl435 14h ago
Why are you complaining that a country is starting an app to let their citizens flag for their state department that they might be detained? Shouldn’t we have the same thing? Why don’t we have an app that easily notifies the local consulate that we need assistance?
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u/Final21 14h ago
I never complained about this. Nice strawman.
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u/tjl435 14h ago
Also I never complained about families being split up, so you definitely know about building strawmans. My point was that someone with legal status could be DETAINED and would use this app. Do you understand that difference between being detained and deported?
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u/Final21 14h ago
Homan has said multiple times that he would deport mixed-status families, which means that legal migrants and immigrants could be detained as well.
You said this. Which was a flat out lie. I called you out. Now you're pretending that you weren't saying this. This is the ONLY situation a legal citizen would be "deported". They would never be detained.
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u/pperiesandsolos 1d ago
Nope, you’re wrong or misunderstanding.
He said he will deport illegal immigrants. He then said if the families of those illegal immigrants want to stay with them, they can accompany the illegal immigrant to wherever they’re deported to.
That’s not “deporting” legal Americans.
Please stop spreading misinformation. This is why so many Trumpers don’t take these types of talking points seriously.
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u/tjl435 1d ago
I watched on 60 minutes where he said that mixed-status families can be deported together. And even if he meant what you’re saying, those legal migrants will very likely be detained in the process of figuring out who does and does not have status. This app just allows them to notify the Mexican consulate + their families that this is happening to them.
Also I didnt say “deport legal Americans,” wtf even is a “legal American”? Do you mean American citizen? Because if so they would need to be dual citizens to even access this app. The Mexican consulate will not give two fucks about American citizens who get detained by the American government
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u/pperiesandsolos 1d ago
Yes Trump should watch his words lol but I think in context it’s pretty clear what he meant. It’s even more clear if you look up what Homan has actually said
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u/damontoo 1h ago
Yeah, just wait 11 years while your family is systematically murdered by cartels or you starve to death. /s
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u/conquer69 1d ago
Legal migration can take decades, assuming they are accepted at all. These people have to wait multiple generations just for the chance to start at the societal bottom in the US. Might as well skip all those years and do it illegally.
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u/BATMAN_UTILITY_BELT 23h ago
Who cares how long it takes or how hard it is? A sovereign nation has the right to loosen or increase immigration policy as it deems fit.
There is no universal right to become an American citizen. It is a privilege. Follow the law, you can't pick and choose.
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u/conquer69 23h ago
Who cares how long it takes or how hard it is?
The immigrants do.
Follow the law, you can't pick and choose.
Well, following the law doesn't benefit them much, does it? You people aren't even attempting to put yourself in the position of the immigrant to understand them better. I wonder why and where this lack of empathy is coming from.
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u/BATMAN_UTILITY_BELT 23h ago
following the law doesn’t benefit them much
Imagine actually making this argument with a straight face. “The law doesn’t help me at all so I’m going to break it”
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u/Narf234 1d ago
Because getting into the US legally is next to impossible and takes forever.
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u/Dirty_Haris 1d ago
migrating legally in any country is a difficult process, for obvious reasons
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u/Narf234 1d ago
If labor is in demand, why are we making it hard for people to be here legally but easy for them to be here illegally?
If we REALLY wanted to fix the problem, we would go after employers who pay under the table. It would cut out any desire to be in America illegally.
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u/Backstabber09 1d ago
Labor in demand bro tf ???
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u/Narf234 1d ago
Labor, work, employment. What’s your beef, bro?
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u/Backstabber09 1d ago
Yeah, we need to fix the employment needs of people within the border first.
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u/Narf234 1d ago
But ignore America’s greatest strength of welcoming in and integrating immigrants legally?
Get off it, we are totally nullifying the us’s best shot at maintaining its best resource, human capital. Our system currently allows immigrants to flood in illegally and work in shit conditions as second class citizens.
Why not invite people in like we did at Ellis island and make everyone who wants to be here work, pay taxes, and use the system as it was intended?
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u/Backstabber09 1d ago
I say this as an immigrant shit is brutally hard for legal immigrants.. they need to allow legal immigrants with skills and make it easier as well but not sacrificing domestic workers for it. President Elon musk talks about increasing H1B visa cap while paying them 70k .. these greedy corpos want to outsource and maintain cheap labor .. domestic labor can’t compete ask anyone who recently graduated about the job market. They need to fix immigration system to be fair. we need skilled immigrants and not labors to exploit.
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u/425trafficeng 1d ago
Look at how well that worked out for Canada? We were not a mature nation and needed the growth to actually develop most of the nation. We grew beyond that and now only need labor when there’s actual shortages that cannot be filled domestically.
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u/Dirty_Haris 1d ago
manual labour is in demand but even migrants don't want to do that for cheap, only higher wages or robots can replace this work, and trump will probably go after companies that do employ illegal migrants for good
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u/ExoticSalamander4 1d ago
Not that I disagree with making immigration more accessible, but a nationalist economist may argue that reducing the supply of labor by making it harder to get a job for non-native citizens should put upward pressure on salaries.
Now, given that America is effectively a corporatocracy and the powers that be don't want the minimum wage to approach a living wage, that doesn't happen regardless.
But a brainwashed nationalist economist may still argue otherwise.
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u/Narf234 1d ago
With that logic, wouldn’t the massive influx of immigrants during the 20th century have sunk the US economy?
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u/ExoticSalamander4 1d ago
Applying this logic, it would have -- in theory and in isolation from all other economic factors (which is not a remotely realistic simplification, unfortunately) -- depressed wages in comparison to the cost of living. Coincidentally that kinda happened, but I would be have to be a disingenuous nationalist economist to claim that that was actually definitely the case and not the product of a million other things.
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u/425trafficeng 1d ago
Immigrants were brought in to essentially fill the nation, grow cities and towns. They were used to establish an economy and build out areas that had nothing, we are far beyond that and the needs of our current economy are very different.
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u/Shigglyboo 1d ago
Who said illegal? Even a legal migrant has to worry because they will be targeted. And while they’re detained they can easily have their lives ruined. So being able to notify friends, family, or your embassy before being rounded up is probably smart.
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u/Back_2_monke 1d ago
I assume its mostly to inform your relatives that you’ve been detained more than anything, but it does also alert the nearest consulate
Mexican consulates “will help ensure the deportation is orderly and that the rights of Mexicans are maintained during the process” according to them
Mexican consulates also provide legal aid, ICE isnt perfect and sometimes deports people who shouldnt be deported (rarely ofc) and i assume they help with that when it happens
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u/omgmemer 1d ago
Fun fact you can look up the name of detainees but if you have a common name like Juan Gonzalez good luck. It would be pretty useless unless you have their a number they have been assigned. It also takes a couple of days for them to be loaded into the system.
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u/Realistic-Nature9083 1d ago
When a government is ok with brain drain than it has lost all my respect. At least the Russian and North Korean government are try to avoid brain drain. These guys are basically saying, mexico won't invest in you and we don't want you here.
The government is extremely unpopular and yet they keep voting for left wing socialist rats.
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u/usermabior 1d ago
isnt it hilarious how mexico and others can spam usa with migrants?
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u/Nyx_Lani 1d ago
Isn't it hilarious how rich people own the government?
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u/Brothersunset 21h ago
Are you implying Mexico isn't owned by the cartels?
As a matter fact, what county isn't corrupted by the current ruling class using their position for financial gain?
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u/Nyx_Lani 20h ago
I was speaking on the U.S. since ppl here like to bicker about trivialities and culture wars while class war is ignored.
.As a matter fact, what county isn't corrupted by the current ruling class using their position for financial gain?
U.S. is in a class of its own, at least among 'developed' countries. Straight down the shitter for 45+ years now. At least other developed countries have campaign finance laws and less voter suppression.
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u/Brothersunset 20h ago
How do you feel about Russia and China if we're going to go on to talk about the developed world in the context of rich ruling classes and voter suppression?
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u/Learningstuff247 20h ago
What does that have to do with illegal immigration?
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u/Nyx_Lani 19h ago
In that immigration is a diversion from the real problem.
What are they doing wrong from a non-legal standpoint? Contributing to society by working odd jobs and participating economically? Or you think they're taking jobs? You know that excuse could almost work before A.I. and if American actor politicians that said it weren't in such bad faith.
And maybe if the U.S. wasn't such a shithole there wouldn't be a huge market for illicit substances if you want to talk about cartels. But American pharmaceutical companies can get away with creating addicts and the root causes of the misery are ignored. Keep yapping about immigration while the ruling class fucks you 😝
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u/Learningstuff247 19h ago
The ruling class is the ones using cheap foreign labor to avoid paying Americans a just wage. We're on the same side my dude
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u/Nyx_Lani 19h ago
No, that's A.I. now. Also... corporations using foreign labour and sweatshops is not an immigration issue. Those are basically slaves and pretty sure they never come to the U.S.🤯
But sure, militarise the border against civilians, round up visa overstays, that'll solve everything!! Finally, your average American can get an odd job for less than minimum wage! Meanwhile, ruling class continues stealing the wealth of your labour while automating away jobs so you're well and truly fucked.
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u/Learningstuff247 18h ago
I'm against the AI and offshoring too
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u/usermabior 1d ago
yes and no. now what?
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u/micluvin27 1d ago
Not the own you think that is big dawq
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u/usermabior 1d ago
wanna edit that donkeys english
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u/micluvin27 1d ago
Not at all cause clearly you understand it lmao im sure that says just as much about you. Imagine being racist in 2024 going into 2025 🤣🤣 bunch of losers
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u/Tandoori7 1d ago
Isn't hilarious how the CIA uses the drug cartels to control and sabotage foreign countries?
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u/Wash_Your_Bed_Sheets 23h ago edited 23h ago
There should be a sub like r/alloftheworldsproblemsaretheCIAsfault
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u/bigmatt8779 1d ago edited 1d ago
Was right about what? People fearing for their safety even tho they are the backbone to the American economy?
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u/Thick-Broccoli-8317 1d ago
The irony of you being all Sunday Christian is hilarious. You should reread your fictitious doctrine that you hold your breath by, especially the gospel of Matthew. Ya know, the story about having to flee to Egypt because of King Herods decree of killing all male infants. Seeking… asylum… 😂😂😂
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u/Thick-Broccoli-8317 1d ago
Yeah, of course it’s real. I burned quite a few of them. And it wasn’t well documented at the time, the Romans didn’t have a formalized system to manage the refugees. Have fun believing in your fairy tale! Hail satan!
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u/Wash_Your_Bed_Sheets 23h ago
You burned bibles? I am an atheist and wow, you are fucking cringey. What a loser
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u/conquer69 1d ago
Love the seething passive aggressive "god bless!" at the end of every message. What a lunatic.
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u/bigmatt8779 1d ago
You just keep talking about it. No one asked you about it. They are making fun of you. Assuming you aren’t a Russian bot, and are in fact an uneducated trump cult member. I hope you get everything you voted for. And when you do get what you voted for. I hope your fictitious sky daddy can pay your bills and put food on your table.
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u/bigmatt8779 1d ago edited 1d ago
I didn’t say paying them lower wages was good, just saying without them the US economy will collapse. Same issues with H1B visa workers being paid less then their American counterparts. However we have let ourselves get to this place. We have demonized manual labor in this country so now no one will do it except for immigrants.
A country deciding to help their citizen alert their families if they are detained is such a terrible thing, right? These people oftentimes come up to the US for only the warmer season and return during the colder times. Mexico relies on those people sending the money back to their families.
Please do tell me what point trump was right about? He doesn’t want to deport people because of the humanitarian side of things.
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u/bigmatt8779 1d ago edited 1d ago
Mass deportation doesn’t fix the economy. And you still haven’t answered, what is trump going to do that will fix the economy? I’ve tried to figure out how his plans will help anyone but the top tax bracket. Please enlighten me.
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u/GotAnyCheez 1d ago
Don’t go to Mexico for vacation. You’re not a true patriot because that’s enabling their behavior.
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u/damontoo 1h ago
Don't go anywhere else either then. Especially Europe where your ancestors probably came from.
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u/redditguy925619 19h ago
Ok and? Why are they being detained? Did they do something illegal? I'm sure there are many other ways they can communicate with their home country
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u/Ok_Locksmith_8260 1d ago
Next step - US govt sets up tracking to see who has this app and detain them