r/spaceporn Apr 10 '19

First ever real image of a black hole

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

If only Einstein was here to see this

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u/SMB73 Apr 10 '19

This image probably would have made Stephan Hawkings get up from his wheelchair.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Mein Führer, I can walk!

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u/thePISLIX Apr 10 '19

How I learned to stop worrying and love the black hole.

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u/douko Apr 10 '19

I believe you mean

Dr. Hawking or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Black Hole

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u/ChadWaterberry Apr 10 '19

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '19

"Shoot, a fella could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff!"

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u/Eranaut Apr 11 '19

That Time I Got Reincarnated As A Black Hole

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u/PSI_Rockin_Omega Apr 11 '19

He can TALK

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u/FreshPrinceOfPallet Apr 11 '19

I can siiiiiiiiing

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u/Julius_A Apr 10 '19

Strangelove.

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u/MyClothesWereInThere Apr 11 '19

Nooooo now I'm sad I realized he can't see this (ಥ﹏ಥ)

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Jan 07 '21

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u/Rodot Apr 10 '19

Problem is that many of them never receive the education they need to succeed.

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u/ConfusedCartman Apr 10 '19

Exactly. It takes more than intelligence to do what Einstein did. Education, ambition, opportunity, a semblance of social freedom, etc... If you’re born in the wrong country, or the wrong social class, or for various reasons lack motivation to use your gifts... then it doesn’t matter how smart you are.

I’d argue there have been people smarter than Einstein, but simply never existed under the right set of circumstances. A lot of luck involved, sadly. Too much.

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u/MangoCats Apr 10 '19

In spades for Newton, Copernicus, Galileo, Fourier, Tesla, etc. Sure, they were all reasonably bright, but if they had been born to a life that made them a subsistence farmer with no connections to academia and/or finance...

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u/IGetHypedEasily Apr 10 '19

Part of his nurturing was the time his mother spent helping him so he can go back to regular school (if I remember correctly). People don't spend enough time with their children to even think about doing this. Let alone all those lost genius children in impoverished countries.

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u/JakkaAlpacca Apr 10 '19

I mean Einstein was actively against quantum physics, so you shouldn't give him too much credits. I mean, after all quantum physics has lead to some extraordinary discoveries and some amazing inventions. (Also Niels Bohr won)

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u/ConfusedCartman Apr 11 '19

This is kinda pedantic. My point wasn’t about Einstein. It’s about how many minds like his may have been lost to circumstance. Replace Einstein with your preferred genius, and the actual point I’m making still holds true.

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u/Shamalow Apr 10 '19

There are far more that do today than in Einstein's childhood. In absolute and ratio.

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u/WingedButt Apr 10 '19 edited Apr 10 '19

Some do, but get silenced and persecuted for various political, religious, and other reasons. I believe what happened to Galileo happens, sometimes secretly and other times publicly, every day to people who would've become great thinkers and scientists if only they were given some of their basic rights like freedom of speech and the right to think freely without being judged and/or harmed for stepping outside the herd and thinking for themselves.

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u/LeageofMagic Apr 10 '19

I mean Einstein did 99% of his learning outside of school so I'm not so sure about that argument

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u/Rodot Apr 10 '19

That's only because he ran out of material in school, so it is a good argument. It's not like he would have just mastered calculus at 14 on his own without ever being introduced to math.

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u/moonra_zk Apr 10 '19

I can't see how that wasn't an issue in Einstein's time.

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u/Rodot Apr 10 '19

I mean, it was, but he was from a wealthy family and was able to attend a good school. Another problem is, just because we find another person who is that smart, there's no reason to expect them to go into physics over something that makes money like programming, investment banking, etc.

Also, the problems we struggle with today even Einstein couldn't solve.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Imagine if he had the computing power we have today

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u/confessionsofadoll Apr 10 '19

From a young age the community around him was educated individuals (family and family friends). His family was secular and instilled value in education over religion as they were non-observant/secular Jews. He also had his own personal tutor outside of class.

My great aunt was fortunate to meet Albert Einstein on multiple occasions as her older sister was friends with him. (Her family were German, educated, non-observant Jews, financially secure). He would come over to their family’s house for dinners. My great aunt (who died at 99 b. 1907) didn’t recall much about him but very vividly remembered him using his napkin at the table as paper and writing ideas/equations/notes on it throughout meals.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Jul 08 '19

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u/Rodot Apr 10 '19

You're going to have to rephrase your question. Who and what are you referring to?

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u/elosoloco Apr 10 '19

Or rising abortion rates

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u/Rodot Apr 10 '19

That would only have an effect if there was some statistical bias towards the aborted to be more likely to achieve Einstein's success than the unaborted. Considering the two biggest parts of Einstein's success were his upbringing in a wealthy educated family and his intelligence. Since abortion biases towards lower income communities, that means they would have grown up in environments that would make them less likely to achieve Einstein's success. So technically, more abortions would bias the odds more in favor of finding a potential Einstein towards more likely than less.

Which is a terrible thing obviously, because that's how eugenics works.

Don't try to argue a moral framework as a practical framework just because the issue is important to you. It weakens your position.

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u/elosoloco Apr 10 '19

It's still less rolls of the dice, which means feet chances overall, including in well educating societies

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u/Rodot Apr 10 '19 edited Apr 10 '19

Not really unless you can correlate total births with abortion rate. For example, a person who is 17 having an abortion might have kids later in life when they can afford it, while a person who doesn't might never be able to get out of the poverty hole caused by a teenage pregnancy and never be able to afford another child. There's also the whole carrying capacity problem. If you outlawed abortions today and for some reason people magically decided to not have them illegally, then eventually any perturbations to the population growth rate would fall back to the current rate. An example of one of the processes responsible for this would be that it is possible to have 2 abortions over the course of 6 months but not two full-term pregnancies. Taking into account that the number of abortions is not equal to the number of potential babies just from chronology, you also have an issue where not every abortion would have even been a viable full-term pregnancy, since the miscarriage rate in the first 5 weeks is about 20%, abortions are more likely to affect pregnancies that would have miscarried.

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u/donut8771 Apr 10 '19

Their level of intelligence doesn’t matter. Einstein was the one who proposed the theory of relativity and predicted black holes existence, I’m sure this long awaited image of something he devoted a large portion of his life working on would mean a lot more to him than someone who just so happened to be smart

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Jul 24 '20

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u/donut8771 Apr 10 '19

I’m no scientist or historian, you tell me

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Jul 24 '20

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u/higgyfbaby22 Apr 11 '19

Thats the thing about knowledge and science isn't it, that answers spawn an explosion of brand new questions and problems? Ipso facto, Einstein indeed holds claim. It all started with Einstein's field equations, therefore Schwarzschild not-so-simply put a name to a face in his solving of that equation, more specifically the Schwarzschild Radius as his answer is so named. In following, Expert physicists have continued this research, progressively advancing technology alongside theory, bringing us to this exact moment in which we're looking at the very first image ever of a black hole. Needless to say, I think Einstein would be pretty fucking proud of such an achievement as this, born from a lifetime of research and study.

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u/donut8771 Apr 10 '19

I didn’t “claim” anything, I said something which was partially right. At least I didn’t throw a wiki page a the person who I was originally expressing my views with, the original comment I made wasn’t abt who discovered what bla bla bla, I was simply talking abt how Einstein’s boots couldn’t be filled by someone who was just as smart as him as he devoted his life to scientific theories which were linked to black holes

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Jul 24 '20

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u/donut8771 Apr 10 '19

Bruh, why do you still care abt this you are LITERALLY arguing over nothing

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u/MrBulger Apr 10 '19

Just take the L and stop replying lol

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

bro you realize you're on reddit, where people will argue over semantics that don't actually matter. Yeah Schwarzschild may have actually proposed it, but guess who's equations were used to figure it out. Einstein did 95% of the work

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u/donut8771 Apr 10 '19

Eat pant

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19 edited Apr 10 '19

Einstein wasn’t just intelligent, I heard there was a part of his brain that was larger than normal and that was why he could perceive such things. like how he came up with the speed of light, he envisioned himself basically riding on a beam of light flying through space

Edit: he was missing a wrinkle in his brain so some lobe was larger, also more neurons than normal. PS you’re all a bunch of negative nancies. We need more positive patties around here

Edit: brain

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u/WrittenOrgasms Apr 10 '19

After reading a few biography’s written of him I believe the general consensus that his life long passion playing of the violin while he thought about his work played a part in developing/over developing one of the lobe. Of course it wasn’t confirmed to be that reason but that’s what they all seems to think. Dude also apparently fucked like a champ as I understand it, and had some pretty fashionable Sandals.

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

Dude was overall one badass mamajamma. Anyone with fashionable sandals is a straight g in my book.

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u/GotAnyKetM8 Apr 10 '19

Um. Im gonna need a source for that one pal.

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u/Sigmatics Apr 10 '19

There's actually a Wikipedia article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein%27s_brain

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Nov 23 '20

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

It’s all good, something I heard in some science class in high school like 6 years ago sooooo yeah pretty fuzzy recalling that one

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u/GotAnyKetM8 Apr 10 '19

Not the brain part, that isn’t hard to believe..

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u/lodavito Apr 10 '19

"I'm gonna need the source on that one." "Here's a Wikipedia article." College Professors REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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u/Sigmatics Apr 10 '19

It's better than nothing. More often than not Wikipedia is actually backed up by scientific sources.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Every professor I ever had in college required me to use at least Wikipedia as a source. It's finally reliable because there's more people contributing and self correcting versus some random guy on the internet.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

That's because most professors are ignorant and biased about it but usually Wikipedia is actually a really good source.

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u/FlashwithSymbols Apr 10 '19

The problem with wikipedia is not bias. It's the fact that anyone can edit it. Wikipedia articles have been edited with false information in the past. Due to this, there is no one being held accountable for the information since it's not by a publisher and the authors aren't always listed. Hence, it's a source you can't use.

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u/[deleted] Apr 11 '19

It's the fact that anyone can edit it.

...Yes but also no. Try to edit any random page, it'll get corrected back in the same day usually within minutes/hours. And that's for lesser known pages - for more famous stuff they are protected and can only edit if you're a recognizable contributor. So no, that's also more ignorant stuff that teachers say.

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

Idk the source I think my high school physics teacher may have dished out a bunch of bullshit haha

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u/GotAnyKetM8 Apr 10 '19

Or he was taking the piss and you just r/woosh ed

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

Well I swear we watched a video about it. But hey, that’s US public schooling for ya

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited May 20 '20

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u/Shamalow Apr 10 '19

It also encourage the debate and allow people with better knowledge to answer.

I prefer that to troll or people not accepting they're wrong.

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u/GotAnyKetM8 Apr 10 '19

what? unfortunately my 3 second google search did not reveal that 'he envisioned himself basically riding on a beam of light flying through space".

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u/GerbilJibberJabber Apr 10 '19

We need more positive patties around here

Will pretty patties be accepted?

Edit : French Fry Bowties?

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

Only the kilt ones

Edit: and French fry bow ties are definitely in

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u/GerbilJibberJabber Apr 10 '19

Ok cool...you know the kilt ones turn your tongue kilt colored....right???

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

They actually make your junk and legs kilt colored lolol

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u/Cascadiandoper Apr 12 '19

How about positively pretty panties? Will those work okay?

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u/GerbilJibberJabber Apr 12 '19

So many variables and I'm on mobile...so....maybe?

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u/Rvrsurfer Apr 10 '19

No idea why you’re getting downvoted, but fuck ‘em. “Imagination is more important than intelligence.” Albert Einstein

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u/killaninja Apr 10 '19

Hmm I wonder why he said that?.. -__-

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u/A_UsernameXD Apr 10 '19

doesn't matter if they are just as smart. doesn't mean they will accomplish half the things they did and contribute as much to the world as he did.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Not with that kind of attitude, anyway.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Homer, that's your solution to everything; move under the sea! It's not gonna happen!

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19 edited Apr 10 '19

"It is inappropriate to judge an animal by focusing on a skill which the creature does not possess. A fish is specialized to swim superbly, and its ability to climb a tree is non-existent or rudimentary" - Anon

Edit: guess Einstein didn't say that, but this doesn't stop it from being true.

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u/PenisShapedSilencer Apr 10 '19

actually he never said this

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Thank you, never realized it wasn't him, but I will still share this quote no matter who it was said by. Still one of the best quotes I know

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Is anybody gonna post that Stephen Jay Gould quote?

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u/Mikkelsen Apr 10 '19

It has more to do with his personal interest and work than intelligence.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Reddit has always been pretty pessimistic. Hopefully it improves with time...

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u/crazyprsn Apr 10 '19

Well it ain't gonna be me.

...unless it is.... OooooOOOOoooo

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Science has become so compartmentalised and specialised that you won't really get people like Einstein anymore. You'll get broadly educated influencers and you'll get experts in extremely specific fields.

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

Its the ol’ reddit IHaveAProblemWithEverything..erooo

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u/Vidmario_Bros Apr 11 '19

That's not the point they want stephen hawking to see it because he was the one who theorized about hawking radiation you could just imagine how happy he will be to see how close we are to actualy knowing what blackholes truly look like

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u/blue_cactus_77 Apr 10 '19

If only Stephen Hawking was here to see this!!!

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u/Anuartato Apr 10 '19

Yeah and Hawking

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

:(

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u/[deleted] Apr 10 '19

He is, relatively speaking.

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u/Akashk9 Apr 10 '19

He'd have to pay for the bet that he lost!

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u/elmanfil1989 Apr 11 '19

He would say I am really a smart person.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '19

im sure he was able to imagine it

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u/thriftydude Apr 10 '19

if his theory of relativity is correct, he is seeing this right now.

*source, no idea, I'm bsing

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u/MrChr07 Jul 13 '23

Oh shit I read that as if only Epstein was here to see this