r/science • u/calliope_kekule Professor | Social Science | Science Comm • 3d ago

A new study reveals that secondhand smoke caused 7.4 deaths per 100,000 people globally from heart disease & stroke in 2019 Health

https://doi.org/10.1371/journal.pone.0316023
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u/Man_Bear_Beaver 2d ago

I don't know a single smoker that smokes inside anymore, when I was a smoker I didn't smoke inside either.

I don't mean to knock their methods but a lot of the countries I'm seeing here are poor and likely have wood burning or coal fireplaces, there is very likely some crossover here and that number may actually be lower for just tobacco smoke, Wood smoke has most of the same carcinogens, mutagens and teratogens (substances linked to birth defects) that are in tobacco smoke, but in much greater quantities. Virtually all of the adverse health effects that have been associated with secondhand cigarette smoke have also been linked with exposure to wood smoke.

so these numbers may be skewed and there is very likely some crossover. I'm not defending big tobacco here, they are murderers and the world would be better off without them.

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u/XBA40 2d ago

Smoking has dropped in the US but smoking indoors with young children is still a problem that I see plenty of whenever I interact with people from lower socioeconomic neighborhoods. I even heard a comment the other day saying that it’s normal for parents to smoke indoors with kids. This is in the US.

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u/Alexhale 2d ago

who made that comment?

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u/XBA40 2d ago

An acquaintance talking about their friend’s drama involving CPS. For me I wouldn’t even have friends like that, but in my mid age I’m still surprised by what people believe when they are of a different background.

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u/straighttoplaid 2d ago

There are plenty of people that either don't think it's a big deal or don't want to be inconvenienced by going outside.

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u/heycarlgoodtoseeyou 1d ago

Both of my parents smoked inside until my dad’s lung cancer diagnosis in 2015. And I know many adults that smoked indoors throughout my childhood the 90s. I’d say most of them stopped smoking indoors in the early to mid 2000s. 

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u/Otaraka 2d ago

I dont see how that would explain it rising.

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u/pusmottob 2d ago

Let’s really shake the ground a little, where does cannabis smoke fall in this? I don’t know anyone who would smoke a cigarette inside or near a kid. However a joint or bong load all day and night I have seen it. They always tell me “weed is different”, but from my high school chemistry eduction it still seems it would be full of carcinogens. Carbons being oxidized by fire tend to that.

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u/Leading-Okra-2457 3d ago

Second hand smoke from vehicles is a bigger concern. Ban all low mileage luxury cars and jets asap.

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u/FrozenToonies 3d ago

What’s a low mileage vehicle? Jets are on another level and use a different fuel. You wanna get mad? Look at cruise ships, look at space launches, look at industrial development.
Don’t look at single users, they aren’t the real problem.

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u/Leading-Okra-2457 3d ago

Yes including those but the ones least eco friendly.

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u/FrozenToonies 3d ago

This study referring to secondhand smoke from smokers (tobacco) and not environmental factors. This has nothing to do with cars.

From the study: Secondhand smoke, also known as environmental tobacco smoke, refers to the tobacco smoke inhaled by non-smokers, including mainstream smoke (smoke exhaled by smokers) and sidestream smoke (smoke from burning tobacco products)

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u/kai_ekael 2d ago

Typical, title says more than the actual study.

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u/Azozel 3d ago

Cancer. They just ignored that huh? My mom never smoked but everyone else in her family did. She died from lung cancer while the smokers all died from multiple other cancers.

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u/42Porter 3d ago

No, they didn’t? It is mentioned in the introduction but it would have been fine if they hadn’t because this study is looking at cardiovascular disease mortality. Sorry about your Mum.