r/qualitynews • u/SaulKD • 16d ago
US shoots down two of its own navy pilots over Red Sea in ‘apparent friendly fire’ incident
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/22/us-shoots-down-two-of-its-own-navy-pilots-over-red-sea-in-apparent-friendly-fire-incident17
u/Hekantonkheries 16d ago edited 15d ago
both alive
Thank God
one with minor injuries
Oof, it doesn't elaborate how bad, but like, basic shit can get you grounded for life in the military because of risk, and veteran longterm healthcare ain't great
Inb4 "pilot hurt by friendly fire deemed not service related by VA"
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u/The_Real_Mongoose 15d ago
“Minor injuries” usually refers to things that A) were not life threatening, and B) can be fully recovered from with no permanent damage or impairment.
So this shouldn’t impact their ability to serve.
The navy spends insane amounts of money training a single pilot. The pilot is sometimes worth more than the aircraft (depending on the aircraft). They will not be sidelined over minor injuries.
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u/ProgenitorOfMidnight 15d ago
Heard about it this morning from a friend, there are some people VERY, VERY, deep in the shit ATM, and they are not low ranking seamen.
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u/___mithrandir_ 15d ago
I don't know if I'd ever want to fly again if I got shot down by my own guys
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u/DepletedPromethium 16d ago
was this due to the CIWS system not being disabled or something like wtf lol.
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u/ImportantRevenue3777 15d ago
If they had to eject I can assure you the physical damage is being downplayed a bit.
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u/Good_Intention_9232 16d ago
Suppose to have the best of the best of technology and trained navy imagine what the enemy can do then if these secrets are sold out to Putin and to China.
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u/Alepeople 14d ago
Don’t worry, Trump won’t sell these secrets out. He’ll give them out for free like the kind hearted man he is!1!11
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u/Fresh_Ostrich4034 16d ago
and biden wont fire anyone
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u/Zestyclose_Pickle511 15d ago
You are not very smart, are you?
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u/Fresh_Ostrich4034 15d ago
smarter than you.
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u/Junior-East1017 15d ago
Okay then who should get fired in this case? The ones who pulled the trigger, their superior, that persons superior, their general, the secretary of defense? Who?
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u/___mithrandir_ 15d ago
The officers who oversaw the technicians who maintained the AA system should receive disciplinary action. These things are fucking deadly. It's a miracle the pilots are alive. Besides that, that's millions of dollars wasted.
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u/Sea_Potential_3036 14d ago
This is what happens when the military has had no leadership for four years!
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u/voodoobox70 14d ago
Like when military aircrafts kept crashing and killing everyone on board in excercises under the Trump administration?
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12d ago
And cargo trains after trump removed the legal requirements for them to have those costly brake checks every year.
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u/Content_Problem_9012 12d ago
I don’t understand this line of thinking that every negative thing that happens, even a human error accident is directly the President’s fault? How? Can you explain how the President is responsible for a military accident over the Red Sea? How are you connecting these dots of causation?
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u/Sea_Potential_3036 12d ago
He is the commander and chief! He is the one who decides who gets promoted to these positions so yes when you have a president who has been out to lunch for four years it has to affect how our military preforms
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u/EditofReddit2 14d ago
the Biden legacy…..
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12d ago
Please explain. (I'm in the UK, so genuinely confused why the president of the US is connected to this incident).
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u/EditofReddit2 12d ago
The president is the commander in chief of the armed services. His leadership defines the military and everything they do. He is ultimately responsible their military readiness. He appointed all the leadership that got them to this ridiculous failure.
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11d ago
https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner
Seems there are quite a lot of accidental deaths in the military under all presidents. Biden (2021-2022) seems to be at the lower end of the range.will be interesting to see the 2023-24 figures.
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u/Content_Problem_9012 12d ago
So accidents have never happened in the history of the military? Well, only under the Presidents you don’t like right? It’s not hard to Google search that their are incidents every year ranging from accidents to violent incidents between personnel. So every year the sitting President is responsible for everything that happens in said year? This is the same line of thinking people that blame every single crime that ever occurs on the Mayor. As if having a different Mayor would’ve made the criminals go “oh nope we can’t commit our crime now 😢”
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u/EditofReddit2 11d ago
Yeah, go with that. But we both know biden isn’t and never has been in charge of anything. He is just a dementia puppet taking advantage of the perks to pardon his son and make money.
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u/Allanon1111 11d ago
Russian Bot
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u/EditofReddit2 11d ago
The rally cry of the left when they lose the argument.
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u/Allanon1111 11d ago
Lol says the person who was losing the entire argument.
Edit: I've realized calling you a bot was a compliment. You smashing Biden Bad into the keyboard proves it. A bot would have an actual narrative to push.
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u/Morozow 16d ago
At least it's not a passenger airliner, as it was in 1988.