B***h, new laws!' California shoplifting suspect surprised stealing is now a felony

https://www.fox13news.com/news/new-laws-california-shoplifting-suspects-surprised-stealing-felony

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u/theReaders 2d ago

The biggest change is labeling them felons, making employment even harder to find after.. It can serve as leverage that forces them into plea deals with reduced charges, making the DA and court systems job easier/cheaper (hopefully).

Because making it harder for people to find employment is definitely going to deter them from committing crimes. 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

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u/Jihelu 1d ago

Don’t worry, from the comments I’ve seen on this thread they want them to be homeless and die anyway

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u/AdagioOfLiving 1d ago

I mean, yeah, you start losing sympathy for people like this if it happens enough times. The same few methheads are behind 80% of the crime downtown in my city, and if it just keeps happening and nothing ever seems to change, eventually people will reach a point where “just fucking shoot them” seems like a reasonable response.

I don’t know if anyone on Reddit can sympathize with the idea that if someone is doing a bad thing and the government doesn’t seem interested in stopping them, then the person who shoots them is doing a good thing. Maybe there’s been a recent incident where that kind of frustration has been evident, idk.

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u/BreadNational522 1d ago

Yes and why is it a bad thing to wish bad things on bad people. Fuck criminals. Why are we more focused on feeling bad for the criminals than the the victims and communities they guck up

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u/Tsofuable 2d ago

Yup, and if the state paid them what it costs to have them in jail - they could live quite nice lives. Jail is for people too dangerous to be on the streets, it's too expensive for the taxpayer for anything else.

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u/bak3donh1gh 1d ago

Yes, all white collar crimes should be totally ignored.

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u/Far_Pianist2707 1d ago

You made an intelligent point with this comment. Also, I enjoyed the sarcasm.

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u/Far_Pianist2707 1d ago

You made an intelligent point with this comment. Also, I enjoyed the sarcasm.

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u/hitlama 2d ago

We can only hope that it will proter (my word that I coined just now) them into committing crimes that are serious enough to warrant lengthy incarceration to keep them off the streets and committing crime. Boom.

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u/DrDrago-4 2d ago

I mean, in my opinion if we can spend $50-75k/person incarcerating them.. we should probably spend a smaller but still significant amount yaknow.. stopping these things before they happen (mental and physical care, UBI or essentially free housing, etc)

Most recent example, Luigi. $4mil to imprison him the rest of his life, 50yrs at average life expectancy, when a small fraction of that would most probably have prevented his action in the first place (and the 'some people can't be cured' rhetoric is true, what matters is that we could reduce it by 90%+ -- sure there will always be people who can't be helped, but theyre a much smaller fraction).

We spend more on the DOC than every social program combined, excluding Social Security / Medicare (mainly benefitting the elderly. wow I wonder why crime stats are skyrocketing among youth from shoplifting to mass shootings)

You're basically advocating that they commit violence against innocent people so 'they're off the street' and not a threat to you

nothing else will keep someone incarcerated long term.

Maybe you havent considered it, but for these people they have nothing or almost nothing to lose. this is an extremely adverse incentive. "kill someone and get free room/board/food for life!" is how they hear it. prison is a better life for perhaps a million+ people than their current circumstances, and until that's fixed we aren't going to see real progress.

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u/Coretron 1d ago

Proter is a perfectly cromulent word

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u/GetBentDweeb 1d ago

It’s too late for those stupid fuckers.

They aren’t stealing groceries to “feed they kidz”. Fuck em.

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u/DrDrago-4 1d ago

More than 60% of under 29 young adults are living with parents.

Another large segment are making do with what they have to do, having no support from either families or the government. We don't have social security to support us, or decades of possibility to build savings during better times.

I'd never convict anyone for shoplifting unless they were a multimillionaire+

The poverty line today is nearly 1/3rd the inflation adjusted level of the 1940 poverty line. Before you even get to discussing how housing costs have skyrocketed beyond the CPI, even purely according to the CPI the poverty level should be $35k/yr+

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u/Far_Pianist2707 1d ago

You made an intelligent point with this comment. Also, I enjoyed the sarcasm.

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u/Far_Pianist2707 1d ago

You made an intelligent point with this comment. Also, I enjoyed the sarcasm.