r/news • u/[deleted] • 19h ago
Azerbaijan Airlines plane crashed after ‘physical and technical external interference,’ carrier says
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u/Betelgeuse-2024 19h ago
Like a Russian air defense system or Russian missile perhaps?
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u/Sunlit53 18h ago
Possibly something nasty in the cargo hold. They’ve been deliberately shipping little time bombs in the freight mail for the past year that go boom in flight.
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u/Okay_Anyways 17h ago
It's literally been published it was hit with a Russian surface-to-air missile. The Russians made it go boom.
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u/KathyJaneway 15h ago
How is that external? The cargo hold is inside, the damage on the tail was from outside force. Like missile. Or shrapnel.
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u/d01100100 13h ago
"External Explosive Cargo" is just a vatnik euphemism for surface-to-air missile.
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u/KathyJaneway 3h ago
I know that. But he's saying it was something nasty into he cargo hold. So, I'm trying to get explanation from him how the cargo hold makes holes on the outside of the plane on the tail section among other parts.
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u/NyriasNeo 19h ago
‘physical and technical external interference'? Let's call it what it is, ok? A Russian missile.
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u/Murgatroyd314 17h ago
The missile was the physical interference. Technical was probably GPS jamming.
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u/FoogYllis 18h ago
This exactly what the media needs to be saying.
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u/Scuffins508 17h ago
The international media is saying this. Apparently only CNN is being cagey. Go figure!
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u/BathroomSerious1318 19h ago
I'm so happy some survived
Amazing camera work too
I'm so sorry this happened
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u/09232022 19h ago
A lot of plane crashes over land where there is some amount of attempt at a controlled landing are immediately survivable, even if the controlled landing goes pretty bad. Problem is that there's usually a huge fireball at the end of it that fills the cabin with flame and smoke. Those who survive the fireball need to exit ASAP or they die of smoke inhalation. But panic coupled with injury and limited visibility and people can't find/navigate to the exit or open it, so usually everyone ends up dead.
When you get on a plane, really note to yourself where the emergency exit is. That knowledge in and of itself could save your life and many others.
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u/champignax 15h ago
True but in that case all the passengers were aware of it, they had an hour to prepare
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u/ThatGuy798 19h ago
I can't imagine the survivors guilt they have from this. Even the Azeri government is cautiously saying it's Russia's fault.
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u/fotank 19h ago
There are vids?!
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u/lawfromabove 19h ago
Let me translate that for you from bullshit to English
Physical = missile; technical = GPS jamming
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u/solitarium 17h ago
So, can anyone versed in geopolitics help me understand the implications of this? In a perfect world, what should we expect the world’s governments reactions to be, and in reality what types of reactions should we expect?
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u/sadandshy 15h ago
Don't know about govts, but the airlines should stop flying to Russia and its allies
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u/Boomshtick414 15h ago
Victims were from Azerbaijan, Kyrgyzstan, Russia, and Kazakhstan, so Western/EU nations will use this as an example of Russia's recklessness but probably will be much less invested and involved than with the shooting down of MH17.
Not sure what happens in Azerbaijan but they may play it down and try to do some backdoor diplomacy with Russia rather stand in front of cameras and demand retribution since Russia will find a way to deny any responsibility in a public dispute. And/or, Putin goes full "this is Ukraine's fault" alleging that the entire incident was a deliberate false flag operation by Ukraine and the US. Putin has never in his life missed an opportunity to blame someone else -- and if he can do that while also bolstering more support for the Ukraine invasion, all the better. At the absolute best, we might see a non-apology apology where he says they wouldn't need to have their air defense systems on ready alert if not for Ukraine's belligerence.
More airlines, even those friendly to Russia, will be much more cautious about continuing flights in that region. Though many Western airlines have already noped out of there long before this.
At the end of the day, I'd keep expectations low that anybody accepts responsibility and there will be nearly zero consequences. There will be political grandstanding across the board but not much more than that.
There will be rebukes of Russia at the UN that Russia will veto. Other international organizations will launch investigations that will also generally be toothless.
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u/gentleman_bronco 19h ago
Technical interference caused by physical Russian missiles. The pilot shouldn't have flown right into them... right?
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u/alwaysfatigued8787 19h ago
I think that they meant "physical and technical external interference of the exploding variety."
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u/ProLicks 17h ago
Man, how much of Azerbaijan’s economy is made up or Russian remittances? Can you imagine what a bitch Aliyev must feel like having to dance around saying that they shot his citizens out of the air?
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u/Kazman07 19h ago
Why be allies with someone who actively steals your resources and kills your civilians...?