r/neoliberal 2d ago

To those who thought the flags being half-mast on Inauguration Day was a ResistLib fantasy Meme

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u/ixvst01 NATO 2d ago

they don’t love our country, they only think about themselves

Two sentences later, he proceeds to elevate his self-importance over the flag decorum regarding the death of a President.

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u/MuldartheGreat Karl Popper 2d ago

It’s always projection

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u/ifunnywasaninsidejob 1d ago

But no way he might have attempted a little election cheating. Don’t even suggest that, no sir.

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u/p_rite_1993 1d ago

Trump has destroyed basic civic decency and any duty for public figures to have at least some level of self awareness and sincerity. I go between thinking Trump is the problem or he is a symptom of the problem. However, since there was no one as popular as him that was so willing to blatantly lie over and over and say such horrific things while still maintaining their popularity, I genuinely think his influence on American culture is what has made so many conservative-leaning grifters on YouTube, podcasts, and streaming become mainstream amongst young people. Lots of kids growing up think this kind of behavior is presidential and allowable when it’s so fucking far from the truth. Based on the direction social media discourse is going, I have lost faith in younger generations growing up to “fix things,” like I did pre-Trump. I see very few positive trends in our social and cultural landscape, it’s depressing as hell. Americans are too easily radicalized by unqualified quacks that just know how to build a brand and attract attention.

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u/Shalaiyn European Union 1d ago

What I think is surprising is that, when I was growing up, holding right-leaning opinions in your teens and early twenties would have got you lambasted; now it seems to be the majority opinion. That is one of his greatest achievements, imo.

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u/2017_Kia_Sportage 1d ago

now it seems to be the majority opinion. 

Key word is seems. Most people aren't tradcaths in waiting, just as they weren't progressives in waiting. If the right is too cocky they're about to overplay their hand massively. Just as progressives could be said to have done.

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u/FizzleMateriel Austan Goolsbee 1d ago

If he fucks the economy badly enough and lets Russia take Eastern Europe and China take Taiwan I can see a backlash and swing back to a Democratic presidency.

And there will inevitably be a cultural backlash to modern politically-incorrect edgelord conservatism.

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u/2017_Kia_Sportage 1d ago

Hell even just the first one will fuck him over politically. Russia won't take Eastern Europe- they can't. Taiwan is an open question though

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u/AmericanDadWeeb Zhao Ziyang 21h ago

Ok but he also won gen z voters in Texas, that’s a really fucking big deal

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u/Khar-Selim NATO 1d ago

that wasn't his achievement, the triumphalist left pushed too far.

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u/nauticalsandwich 1d ago

Which in itself is another consequence of social stratification and media bubbles.

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u/Froztnova 1d ago

It started years before Trump, he's just riding the wave.

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u/FizzleMateriel Austan Goolsbee 1d ago

Yeah pretty much. In a lot of ways he’s reflecting the decay in society from reality TV and social media. He was just the right man at the right time to take full political advantage of it.

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u/pulkwheesle 1d ago

now it seems to be the majority opinion.

Based on what?

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u/dgtyhtre John Rawls 5h ago

Vibes and unreliable exit polls.

I’m still waiting for the actual post mortem on the election using the voter files, I have a sneaky suspicion it’s going to be different than the exit polls and dispel a lot of the discourse around the election.

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u/pulkwheesle 1h ago

Another thing is that John Kerry won the youth vote by less than 10 points in 2004. Sometimes things happen that cause the more conservative young people to turn out, while the liberal ones stay home. It doesn't mean that generation is abnormally conservative. People are rushing to make conclusions based on one election.

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u/nauticalsandwich 1d ago

What happened was Trump adjusted to the new media landscape faster than any other politician did. People were craving someone who didn't appear to be a "phony," and HARD. Trump may have a complete lack of decorum, but people have largely interpreted that as "he's not a phony, and not playing the usual game," and in a techno-media-paradigm that sabotages trust and makes everyone hate the status quo, that looks "trustworthy" to people. The vibe is, "if he's not compelled remotely to play the decorum game, he must not be a part of this corrupt system." Most people are not drawn to the lack of decorum itself. They're drawn to what it represents in their eyes.

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u/ThisElder_Millennial NATO 1d ago

Yeahhh... The kids ain't alright.

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u/Embarrassed-Unit881 2d ago

So it's a case where he isn't wrong but he's also worse than them at the same time

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u/Dapper-Ad7748 1d ago

Many such cases

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u/jtrot91 NASA 2d ago

It isn't even the first time ever this has happened. Truman died 12/26/1972, so the flags were at half mast during Nixon's 2nd inauguration.

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u/the-senat South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation 2d ago

Flag has a pretty good record predicting bad administrations. 

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u/aclart Daron Acemoglu 1d ago

Was the Nixon administration bad though?

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u/FizzleMateriel Austan Goolsbee 1d ago

Nixon was basically the proto-Trump except he kept his bullshit conspiratorial opinions contained within the Oval Office.

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u/ThatShadowGuy Paul Krugman 1d ago

It might seem hard to fathom now, but there was a time when presidents were expected to not do shit that was blatantly corrupt and illegal.

So yes. It was pretty bad.

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u/the-senat South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation 1d ago

Well considering how poorly his second admin went…

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u/gnurdette Eleanor Roosevelt 2d ago

Sacrificially serving his country to the very end. Thank you, Mr. President.

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u/looktowindward 2d ago

The Flag Code is a thing. They have zero respect

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u/Benevenstanciano85 2d ago

Same people who wear the flag as swimwear.

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u/dddd0 r/place '22: NCD Battalion 1d ago

Or as a twitter clone avatar with their face imprinted

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u/Resident_Option3804 1d ago

Wearing a picture of the flag as swimwear is allowed under the flag code my guy.

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u/Excellent-Juice8545 2d ago

Oh he mad mad. Watch him go and try to raise a flag during the inauguration now.

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u/DreamlitJuliet YIMBY 2d ago

He did say potentially being down.

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u/Benevenstanciano85 2d ago

Imagine thinking that this guy is tough and strong.

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u/WuhanWTF YIMBY 1d ago

People are fucking delusional.

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u/SwordfishOk504 Commonwealth 2d ago

I'm genuinely curious why he thinks this is a bad thing.

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u/badnuub NATO 1d ago

he is probably annoyed that his inauguration will be “stained” by the potential distraction of people honoring someone other than him. Someone can be that ridiculous that they would going on a twitter rant about how the flags at the capital won’t be at full mast for his coming.

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u/H-e-s-h-e-m 1d ago

i feel like it seems like a bad omen and especially with how bible belt people being generally superstitious turns it into a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy of negativity for the second trump term.

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u/Embarrassed-Unit881 2d ago

I'm curious what you don't understand? Leftists were making memes about how Trump would have a lowered flag thus implying it's a bad thing so he's retorting back.

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u/TheRedCr0w Frederick Douglass 1d ago

Are the leftist in the room with us right now?

This wasn't a retort to anything it was narcissist having a temper tantrum

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u/Embarrassed-Unit881 1d ago

Are the leftist in the room with us right now?

Given the succs....yes, like did you not see people making a big deal about the half mast thing?

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u/gritsal 2d ago

God inject this into my veins. The schadenfreude the next four years is gonna be amazing provided we all live

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u/twdarkeh 🇺🇦 Слава Україні 🇺🇦 1d ago

Democracy may die, but the jokes will be killer.

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u/prosecko Bill Gates 2d ago

lmao bro so pressed. cope and seethe

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u/WashedPinkBourbon YIMBY 2d ago

Ngl even that word isn’t strong enough to describe Trump and his goons.

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u/Sam_the_Samnite Desiderius Erasmus 1d ago

I dont understand whybits not allowed. it seems to me that forbidding its use makes it more ingrained that it is referring to people with a mental or physical disability.

But i have never heard anyone but 14 year olds refer to people with a disability as the r word. Everyone else uses it for people who should be be of sound mind and body but choose to have the most profoundly stupid opinions and takes.

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u/Khar-Selim NATO 1d ago

It's still too soon off the treadmill. When the current generation of people with intellectual disabilities don't have a clear memory of being called that term it will become more free to use.

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u/Sam_the_Samnite Desiderius Erasmus 1d ago

If you forbid its use entirely then it will always remain that. In dutch we have the equivalrny word "achterlijk", which while having the same origin, is used to just describe supremely idiotic people not people with a disablity.

If you do use it to punch down everyone around you will instantly turn on you. And thus it has lost it connection to its origin for the vast majority of people.

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u/Khar-Selim NATO 1d ago

which while having the same origin

You mean like idiot, and a plethora of other English words? How long ago did achterlijk mean intellectual disabilities? I'm going to guess it was more than a few decades. It doesn't 'always remain like that', so just let the language evolve in its own time and be respectful in the meantime. You have no pressing need to use the word.

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u/HammerofThora 2d ago

I don't know if this is satire or not and at this point, I just don't care because it's depressing no matter which way.

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u/AmeriSauce 🌐 1d ago

The flags will be at half staff, not half mast. We're not on ships at sea.

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u/ifunnywasaninsidejob 1d ago

are The Democrats in the room with us right now?

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u/FuckFashMods 1d ago

I swear his mind is rotting away right in front of our eyes