Trump's promise to build more warships is on a collision course with his deportation pledges

[u/Steve____Stifler]

https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2025/01/trumps-promise-build-more-warships-collision-course-his-deportation-goals/401940/?oref=d1-featured-river-secondary

[u/puukkeriro]

Trump wants to cut spending and cut taxes but doesn't want to cut defense, Medicare, Social Security. This upcoming budget cycle is going to be interesting.

[u/Master_of_Rodentia → u/puukkeriro]

He's basically the perfect representative of the electorate. You might not like it, but this is what peak democracy looks like.

[u/puukkeriro → u/Master_of_Rodentia]

I know the budget hawks in Congress are much more realistic. I recall one of them calling for a 20% cut to everything.

[u/Numerous-Cicada3841 → u/puukkeriro]

The Republicans have a narrow enough majority that the budget hawks might actually get a much needed victory.

[u/puukkeriro → u/Numerous-Cicada3841]

I know most leftists dislike budget hawks but given that the country spends 1 in five dollars of revenue on debt service alone, it's much needed. It's a matter of what to cut.

[u/Yevon → u/puukkeriro]

This would hurt a lot of people so it's a perfect encapsulation of what deficit hawks would do when in control.

[u/GoldenSalm0n → u/Master_of_Rodentia]

Doesn't the electorate want to cut defense?

[u/bleachinjection → u/GoldenSalm0n]

No. They don't want "wars" but they want a "strong military."

In practical terms, as with so much else the electorate wants, it wants the jobs and the economic impact that goes with them (the actual military, defense contractors, used car dealers and strip clubs in military towns, etc.) but doesn't want the military to do military stuff.

[u/DeepestShallows → u/bleachinjection]

Along with wanting the government to be efficient and cost effective but also for government money to be focused on providing jobs and investment.

[u/TheloniousMonk15 → u/puukkeriro]

Him and his morons over at DOGE will go after all these woke government programs that's costs .1% of the budget just to keep the whole "better for the economy" farce going.

[u/Healingjoe → u/TheloniousMonk15]

A bunch of important programs already got cut from December's funding bill.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/12/26/gop-opposition-shutters-global-engagement-center/77239404007/

[u/DeepestShallows → u/TheloniousMonk15]

Well yeah, it’s always about somehow balancing the budget by cutting things people don’t like or want. Somehow. A bunch of money must be spent on unpopular, unnecessary stuff right?

Really the Democrats should have had the decency to spend a trillion a year on lesbian marriages or public libraries or something just so the Republicans have something juicy to cut.

[u/marsexpresshydra → u/puukkeriro]

Rand Paul likes 1/2 of that

[u/Watchung → u/puukkeriro]

Cranked up deficient spending it is, then!

[u/Loud-Chemistry-5056 → u/Watchung]

The most likely outcome ngl.

[u/Inamanlyfashion → u/Loud-Chemistry-5056]

🌎 👨‍🚀 🔫 👨‍🚀

[u/West_Pomegranate_399 → u/Watchung]

12% deficit, just in time to plant a bomb on the laps of whoever wins 2028 and come out looking like a good president compared to either the economic crisis or massive tax hikes that come after

[u/MuscularPhysicist → u/puukkeriro]

Party of fiscal responsibility

[u/manitobot → u/puukkeriro]

Don’t worry he will just use tarrifs 😂😭

[u/GoldenSalm0n → u/puukkeriro]

I thought we spent like 83% of our national budget on DEI measures and red tape, at least that's what r/ conservative told me.

[u/College_Prestige → u/puukkeriro]

Fiscal conservatives don't exist when Republicans are in charge

[u/savuporo]

workforce is only one of the myriad of issues with US shipbuilding

[u/HotTakesBeyond → u/savuporo]

The final product being one of the biggest issues

glares at LCS

[u/TrixoftheTrade]

American children yearn for the mines shipyards.

[u/yellownumbersix]

Man, I wish we could get the Jones Act repealed.

Monkey's paw curls.

[u/sponsoredcommenter → u/yellownumbersix]

Repealing Jones Act means cheaper transport of goods. It does not mean more US shipbuilding.

[u/repete2024]

You think Trump would do that? Make a bunch of campaign promises without considering the logistics?

[u/TheRealStepBot → u/[deleted]]

In order to do that we’d have to stop subsidizing living dispersed all over the country for whatever reason

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/Snoo93079 → u/[deleted]]

Why?

[u/MeatPiston → u/[deleted]]

Yes lets turn down skilled labor and the chance for them to become personally invested in their new home while building civic pride.

Dumb fucking take.

[u/eldenpotato → u/MeatPiston]

They can get jobs that aren’t part of a critical industry for national security and defence

[u/yellownumbersix → u/eldenpotato]

Everyone working at Norfolk or our other shipyards has some kind of DOD security clearance commensurate to the work they are doing, contractors be they immigrants or not included.

I will go with the DOD vetting process over blanket xenophobia.

[u/G_Platypus → u/yellownumbersix]

Yes, but have you considered that a toilet on a coast guard cutter was installed by a mexican?

[u/KeithClossOfficial → u/eldenpotato]

Who is going to replace them

[u/College_Prestige → u/eldenpotato]

Hey quick question, what do you consider to be not national security related? I have heard ai (which is in every tech company now), electronic hardware, chemicals, steel, food, cars, aviation, space, energy, and even garlic for some fucking reason get called vital for national security. So are immigrants supposed to restrict themselves to jobs at best buy or something?

[u/die_hoagie → u/[deleted]]

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