The two-state solution is still best

[u/GrandpaWaluigi]

https://www.slowboring.com/p/the-two-state-solution-is-still-best

The rather ignored 2 state solution remains the best possible solution to the I/P crisis.

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[u/DougFordsGamblingAds]

I don't think this really gets into the meat of the issues with the 2 state solution.

1. An independent Palestinian state would have an independent military. What happens when such a state starts importing Russian artillery? The article simply says that an independent Palestinian state would not be a military threat without backing it up.
   Oct 7th is what happened to the Israeli civilian population from a blockaded Hamas. Imagine what a fully armed/equipped force could do in a space this close.

2. There is no resolution to the 'right to return', which I don't think the Palestinians are willing to give up.

3. There is no resolution to Al-Aqsa Mosque/Temple Mount. If this is to be in a Palestinian states, would there be a guarantee that a Jew would be allowed to visit their most holy site? This would be crucial to getting religious Jews on board, but I don't think Palestinians would accept anything less than complete control and the ability to discriminate here based on religion.

The upshot is that as a nation, the Palestinians seem to prefer the current state of affairs rather than giving up on these three points. That makes the status-quo more of a solution than the 2 state solution.

[u/michaelclas → u/DougFordsGamblingAds]

Israel has always demanded a de militarized Palestinian state. They would have some kind of a security force (like the modern Palestinian Authority Security Service) not a full blown military

[u/DougFordsGamblingAds → u/michaelclas]

This is exactly the problem - Israel has always demanded that, and Palestinians won't accept that. 77 percent of Palestinians opposed the idea that a Palestinian state would be demilitarized

Until that and those other issues change (and it will not change on the Israeli side), then there is no real movement to a two-state solution. One side will always strongly prefer the status quo.

[u/michaelclas → u/DougFordsGamblingAds]

I’ve come to the same conclusion. There is no just solution for the Israeli Palestinian conflict. Both sides are too entrenched and mistrustful of each other.

[u/coke_and_coffee → u/michaelclas]

People have said that about a lot of conflicts in the past. A solution will eventually come.

[u/ZCoupon → u/coke_and_coffee]

They've almost always ended in one side dying more than the other.