r/nashville • u/Impossible-Pomelo-85 • Sep 16 '24

Leaving Nashville Discussion

Have you been living here for a while now and are you wanting to move either because of the traffic, politics, home prices, jobs, culture or religion etc ? Please share your opinions because I have plenty and want to hear other's! Thank you!

Oh and where are you moving to?

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u/jdolbeer Woodbine Sep 16 '24

I'm not generalizing to Chicagoland or to suburbs. Because the data I research is for Chicago proper and that's what I can speak to. It's of course far cheaper in the burbs (for the most part). But that wouldn't be a like comparison, unless we're trying to compare Franklin to Evanston or something.

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u/timbo1615 Wilson County Sep 16 '24

good luck. hope it works out for you! someone has to fund those pensions. just wait till chicago proposes a city income tax

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u/jdolbeer Woodbine Sep 16 '24

I will happily pay more taxes to have better schools for my kids, better health care for my wife, better public transit for the whole family, better parks to access for the whole family. Oh and sidewalks in neighborhoods, and roads that aren't constantly littered with potholes.

The hilarious decree of "YOU'LL PAY MORE TAXES" doesn't work well on people who want better social services than they currently have.

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u/Mediocre-Seat4485 Sep 16 '24

Chicago native. You are in for a big surprise if you think schools are good there. If you don’t like Nashville politics what in the world are you moving to Chicago? I noticed you haven’t brought up crime and it’s not just property tax. It’s tolls, constant tax increases, terrible roads… everyone wants a liberal city until they live in one. I’d ask anyone in Nashville why they moved here from Chicago. I only rode the L when absolutely necessary. Don’t glamorize it. They just removed the carpet from the seats a few years ago because they literally couldn’t get rid of the urine smell.

The parks here are amazing not sure what you’re even talking about.

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u/jdolbeer Woodbine Sep 16 '24

Schools are better in Chicago than Nashville. That's very easily researched and proven.

You do realize that the state legislature in Tennessee is republican and it's democrat in Illinois, right? They're wholly different? Especially when it comes to policy matters.

I've brought up crime plenty. And both violent crime and property crime rates are higher in Nashville than in Chicago.

There are far more parks per SQ mile in Chicago than Nashville.

I highly suggest you do literally any amount of research before talking on subjects you're clearly uninformed about. It will prevent you from saying extremely stupid things.

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u/cucumber_breath Sep 16 '24

This is just false, and I know because I was a resident of Chicago for 20 years who had two kids in CPS before moving to Nashville. Chicago Public Schools are one of the most corrupt and incompetent school districts in the country. They have an elementary school reading proficiency of 31% and a math proficiency of 19% which is garbage. Once you get to high school, reading proficiency 14% and math is at 17%. The schools in Chicago are some of the worst in the country, unless your kid tests into one of the magnet schools. The difference in Chicago is they take all of the extra money they get from taxes, and use it to pay off pensions and for blotted administration while the kids suffer. They spend $30k a year per pupil for those dog shit results.

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u/jdolbeer Woodbine Sep 16 '24 edited Sep 16 '24

I hate to break it to you, but the reading proficiency rate in Nashville is lower than 31%.

When looking up numbers for a comparative fact, it's generally helpful to look up both sides.

Edit: Here's another gems for you -

6% of Davidson county high school students tested to proficiency in math. That's less than half the 17% for Chicago. That's fucking terrible.

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u/cucumber_breath Sep 16 '24

31.3% in Nashville, so almost the same:

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/education/2024/06/14/nashville-third-graders-fall-short-tennesee-reading-test/74097519007/#

Once again, you don’t know what you are talking about. Both school districts are ass. Don’t paint Chicago Public Schools out to be some beacon of knowledge when it is in the same boat as Nashville.

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u/jdolbeer Woodbine Sep 16 '24

I never said they were a beacon of education. I said they were better. They are. Apparently especially when it comes to math. 6% math proficiency for Davidson county high schoolers. SIX

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u/cucumber_breath Sep 16 '24

Both scores mean the children are essentially are incapable of doing math outside of simple addition and subtraction, and shows both school districts are equally terrible and someplace no one would want to send their kids too unless it was a last resort.

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u/Mediocre-Seat4485 Sep 16 '24

Exactly. This is obviously someone that’s never been to Chicago. Nashville has its own problems but it’s like Mayberry compared to Chicago.

So glad they did their “research” and regurgitated it like it’s facts.

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u/cucumber_breath Sep 16 '24

For the talking points that person is blasting out, their research is clearly just hearing from a friend how great it is to live there and doing the most basic of google searches. It’s laughable they think crime is less in Chicago when the DA doesn’t charge most people that get arrested, that cost of living is less when sales taxes are at least 1% higher on all things outside of food, 4x on property taxes, insane traffic that would make Nashville traffic look like a drive in the park, brutal winters where you have to spend hundreds a month to heat your home, a failing and bankrupt city government, insane pension debts that the citizens are liable for because of the state constitution, 5% flat income tax, the list goes on and on. Nashville is far from perfect but after living in Chicago for 20 years, none of the above will ever change.

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u/Mediocre-Seat4485 Sep 17 '24

I bet they’ve never even visited Chicago. It’s so comical. People are so naive.

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u/kilink1 Sep 16 '24

Slammed

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u/Important_Bee_1879 Sep 17 '24

Amazing? I’d love to know which parks you love. I’ve been pretty disappointed in the ones I’ve found nearby.

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u/Mediocre-Seat4485 Sep 17 '24

Centennial is great. You can hike in a million places here. Waterfalls, lakes. There’s more to Nashville than Broadway. And bonus, we get to use them the majority of the year.

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u/Important_Bee_1879 Sep 17 '24

I’m been to Centennial. It’s fine. And I’ve hit some of the more far flung parks (loved the waterfalls at the old stone fort archeological park), but unless I want to drive an hour or more each way, the parks i’ve found nearby are just… meh. Maybe growing up on the edge of a national forest — and living most of my adult life on the edges of really outstanding metro parks, dark sky parks, and national rec areas spoiled me, but I really miss parks that actually offer services — classes and outdoor adventure outings, and rangers who love to share their knowledge. Anything like that here?

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u/timbo1615 Wilson County Sep 17 '24

To your point about everyone wanting a liberal city until they live in one. This was absolutely proven true when all of the refugees were being bussed up there. How many people were opening their doors to them? None.

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u/Dashing_Individual Sep 17 '24

I agree with this 1000%

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u/atwood_office Sep 17 '24

Uhh you’ll buy a 600k house in cook and experience insane tax increases yearly. My cousin got hit with a 56% increase this past tax season lol

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u/jdolbeer Woodbine Sep 17 '24

Why lie? Like, why? It's so easily disproven. What do you possibly gain by lying here?