r/moderatepolitics • u/ShivasRightFoot • 26d ago

US appeals court rejects Nasdaq's diversity rules for company boards Culture War

https://apnews.com/article/nasdaq-sec-dei-diversity-board-a3b8803a646a62aeb2733bbd4603e670

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u/WorstCPANA 26d ago

preferring one race over the other is not equality.

I'm asian, I have to get higher test scores to get into college than other races because apparently I'm the wrong kind of race. Is that what equality looks like to you?

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u/chaosdemonhu 26d ago

Right, the goal is to stop preferring white people over everyone else.

Your second point is a straw man. I did not argue for that.

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u/WorstCPANA 26d ago

Right, the goal is to stop preferring white people over everyone else.

What about having no preference based on skin color?

Your second point is a straw man. I did not argue for that

Oh you didn't want for asians to join whites as the non-desirables? We're just collateral damage?

Look, I get what you're trying to say, that white people have been preferences for so long that we need to even the playing field. But clearly, putting arbitrary requirements for race for positions in school or jobs is racist. It's shocking that the right is battling the left to not prefer one race over another.

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u/chaosdemonhu 26d ago

what about having no preference based on skin color?

Would be nice, but we have a whole lot of innate human, societal and historical biases we are still working through before we get there.

Literally whatever you are saying after my quote about you straw manning me is again… just a straw man and putting words in my mouth.

Whatever personal grievances you have you can stop taking them out on a random stranger.

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u/Nissan_Altima_69 25d ago

He's not really straw manning you, you argue the point is to stop preferring white people and he's replying that its actually harming Asians.

Also, white women have been the biggest beneficiaries of DEI policies by a mile, so the goal does not seem to be stopping the preference of white people

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

Great, those are actual discussions about where some of these things have failed we can have but when he claims I’m arguing for discrimination against Asians that’s a straw man.

Especially when the original comment was discussing DEI as discrimination against white men.

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u/Nissan_Altima_69 25d ago

Idk what else he should have taken away from your response lol, you are clearly inferring your support for the ideals being pushed and he is pointing out that those ideals have led to harming Asians. He's being accusatory, I agree, but its hard to have a discussion when you wave it away as a straw man without acknowledging it

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

It’s just weird whiplash to have him start off about how this harms the white man somehow and then immediately and aggressively switch to Asians and start arguing with himself.

Maybe we need to stop inferring people’s positions which are probably nuanced and complicated based on what we think they should be because of social media.

Just a thought.

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u/WorstCPANA 25d ago

Look I'm just trying to argue that we should treat people equally, regardless of race.

If you have a problem with that, I think you need to look in the mirror at the issue.

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

Brother nothing I have said disagrees with you on that.

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u/WorstCPANA 25d ago

Actually, you arguing to prefer people for a position based on their race is directly at odds with what I have to say on that.

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

If you’re just going to talk past me to argue with yourself you don’t need social media to do that you can just go talk to yourself in the mirror - you might enjoy it more.

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u/andthedevilissix 25d ago

Right, the goal is to stop preferring white people over everyone else.

If that were in anyway still the truth of America, why are asian and desi Americans the wealthiest and least incarcerated demographics?

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

I’m sorry what?

In 2021, households with a White householder made up 65.3% of all U.S. households and held 80.0% of all wealth.

https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2024/04/wealth-by-race.html#:~:text=In%202021%2C%20households%20with%20a,held%2080.0%25%20of%20all%20wealth.

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u/andthedevilissix 25d ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_groups_in_the_United_States_by_household_income

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

That doesn’t make them the wealthiest when one demographic controls the vast majority of the wealth

Also this is median not mean.

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u/andthedevilissix 25d ago

asians are literally the wealthiest demographic, and desis are vastly overrepresented in major corp CEO/CFO etc.

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u/chaosdemonhu 25d ago

… they are the wealthiest when you take the median income, but per the census whites own 80% of the nations wealth.

Who has more wealth, racially speaking?

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u/andthedevilissix 25d ago

as a group, asians and desis.

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u/reaper527 25d ago

When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression

that quote doesn't apply here.

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u/RobotWantsKitty 26d ago

Equality

You mean Equity? Funny that even this epic left wing one-liner became problematic over time.

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u/chaosdemonhu 26d ago

Absolutely not the gotcha you think it is but go off

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