New Waza? - r/kendo

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u/Zaisengoro 3d ago

Do Men-kaeshi-zekken, men-kaeshi-collar bone, or kote-men-zekken count?

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u/JesseHawkshow 1 dan 3d ago

A lot of the kids in my dojo are big fans of hiji-uchi (elbow)

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u/Kendogibbo1980 internet 7 dan 3d ago

I did kote kaeshi do last week. Does that count?

I'm also working on tsuki suriage tsuki.

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u/Francis_Bacon_Strips 3d ago

tsuki suriage tsuki

This sounds like beyond 得意技, this is almost 剣道の極意 kinda stuff.

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u/Kendogibbo1980 internet 7 dan 3d ago

I'm in a league of my own.

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u/Francis_Bacon_Strips 3d ago

A way of a true ~~internet~~ 7 dan

I'm still loving the meme btw lol

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u/Kendogibbo1980 internet 7 dan 3d ago

I'm never taking it off.

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u/Single_Spey 2d ago

How about kote kaeshi gyaku do? You’d need to do a very spirited kaeshi, but…

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u/blaberon 5 dan 3d ago

Not really new waza but there's been definite changes in existing ones. Fumikomi on Do waza has been steadily phased out, for example.

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u/liquidaper 2 dan 3d ago

I just mastered a backflip hiki-tsuki.

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 3d ago

Was ippon awarded?! This is why it’s important to attend proper shinpan training!

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u/Tomppeh 2 dan 3d ago

My special waza is to tell so terrible dad joke at the start of the jigeiko that my opponent can't fight because they are laughing so hard.

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u/Sageofprofession 3d ago

A different take on seimei

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u/princethrowaway2121h 2 dan 3d ago

We gotta bring back mune tsuki. And men himo choke.

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u/noodleboxer 3d ago

Every now and then I contemplate clubbing some people with the tsuba/tsuka.

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u/Shisui89 3d ago

I guess the good old scrotum tsuki is no longer considered new waza?

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 3d ago

Turns out it’s actually the oldest waza.

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u/kiltman457 2d ago

Proper term is skrote

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u/14thbrother 1 kyu 3d ago

men kaeshi ball

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 3d ago

Ah, the most sacred of all waza!

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 3d ago

Let’s create our own waza with blackjack and hookers! Yeah, I figured, but part of me is hoping someone finds some obscure story of a real mad lad who went the distance you know?

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u/shugyosha_mariachi 3d ago

Bonder, is that you??

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 3d ago

You know it baby! lights cigar

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u/shugyosha_mariachi 2d ago

Wanna minute! Bender’s name isn’t Bonder!!

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 2d ago

😂

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u/Francis_Bacon_Strips 3d ago edited 3d ago

For some reason I sometimes instinctively do a kote-kaeshi-men and I noticed it throws off a lot of high level kendokas, they just don't expect their kote to get kaeshi, since most of the (rational and reasonable thinking kendoka) would be doing suriage or nuki wazas in that situation. Not a new waza though.

I once got a men-ukenagashi-gyaku do once from one of my senseis a long time ago, I still thought it was cool, but I couldn't just pull it off for some reason?

And finally, men-kaeshi-gyaku do was pretty hot during covid, I've seen a guy who successfully attempted it and I'm pretty sure he could've done it since he was hired as a police(gotta have good Kendo to get hired), others were just striking other people's armpits.

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u/wisteriamacrostachya 3d ago

I've been hit with gyaku do off the men block, though I think aite blocked on the same side. Wasn't really a suriage though, more of a crisp kaeshi style block into the do-uchi.

Aite was (is) very very skilled and fast, as you mention it seems hard to do cleanly.

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u/darsin 5 dan 3d ago

Trying to introduce katate kiriotoshi men but according to my experiments you need to have wrists like prime shaq to be able to do it🤣

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u/Barbastorpia 3d ago

i heard a guy boast about mastering the elusive hiki tsuki once.

and no, you're not allowed to ask how that works.

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u/Shubit1 4h ago

I am going to bite the bullet here and ask how tf would that even work/has anyone ever scored it in the history of kendo

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u/Shotoken2 2 dan 2d ago

I am working on the Obi-Ani spin followed by a men strike as an oji waza

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u/RepresentativePea840 2d ago

Shouting kirikaeshi during a match the opponent reflexly open for you

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 2d ago

That’s a bold waza right there!

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u/RepresentativePea840 1d ago

It happened before, opponent's first match. Finished within 10 second.

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u/Single_Spey 2d ago edited 2d ago

Tsuki - upwards kiriotoshi- tsuki?

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u/DMifune 3d ago

Lol no.

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u/SARUBOOST 2d ago

Let me ask you this - what do you know of Americanized Eagle Kendo?

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u/Content_gamer 2d ago

My brother accidentally pulled off a kick during one of the fights

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u/MountainDragonfly821 4 kyu 2d ago

He is now Kendo’s first MMA contender! I hope he can show the world that kendo has a place in the octagon!