r/ireland • u/enter_the_wu • 14d ago
€42 sirloin steak, Rathgar, Dublin Christ On A Bike
€42 “9oz” black Angus sirloin, caramelised onions, pepper sauce. Spuds and sprouts not included. I appreciate restaurants are struggling at the moment, but Jesus Christ. Would you be happy paying that amount for this plate of food?
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u/ParpSausage 14d ago
Oh look you got two wedges!
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u/StellarManatee its fierce mild out 14d ago
I'm finding this the most infuriating thing about this photo. (Well that and the bowl of soup it's being served in).
Why so laughably scabby? Four or five wedges would be considered fancy restaurant scabby but this is ostentatiously daring you to complain
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u/Sharp-Class-551 13d ago
Theres clearly a side of potatoes. The chefs hardly going to lob two on the side of a plate. Maybe some mug that hasnt a clue might tho!
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u/TheChrisD useless feckin' mod 14d ago
uh, where's the rest of the meat?
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u/chipsambos 14d ago
The waiter asked "how did you find the steak? " op replied "I just moved a chip and there it was"
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u/Garlic-Cheese-Chips 14d ago
Hiding under the grass?
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u/KnittingKitty 14d ago
My husband calls those weeds.
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u/Longjumping_Test_760 14d ago
Your husband is a wise man. I really don’t like cold leaves with my hot food. At least serve me some hot veg.
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u/enter_the_wu 14d ago
No way that’s a 9oz steak, right???
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u/Dry_Bed_3704 14d ago
The weight is before its cooked, if that helps at all.
But it looks like you have steak pieces and a salad in a bowl of soup, which is off putting
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u/TomTabs 14d ago
Whatever about how much of it is there. €42 is crazy for a 9oz sirloin!
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u/OneMagicBadger Probably at it again 14d ago
That's about 7.50 in Tesco
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u/Pale_Eggplant_5484 14d ago
Not a chance would that be 7.50 way less I think you will find
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u/ImposterSyndromeNope 14d ago
As a butcher that’s around €5 retail price, remember restaurants are not paying retail price.
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u/howsitgoingboy Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 14d ago
And if you're a restaurant buying the stuff in bulk, you're not paying Tesco or Larry for it, you're buying it from a farmer/slaughter collective.
I'd say 3 quid.
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u/MrFnRayner 14d ago
You're right, restaurants don't pay what we do in Tesco.
When cooking at home you also don't have to pay 3 or 4 chefs, a kitchen porter, 3 or 4 wait staff, 2 bar staff, cleaning staff, public liability insurance, businesses insurance, maintenance fees, rent or mortgage on a building, the huge amounts they pay on bills etc etc.
Sure, you can make it yourself for probably about a tenner, and I'd generally implore you do (restauranteurs are obnoxious and profiteering assholes mostly) but to compare making it yourself to all the other expenses that restaurants do is rubbish.
Would you expect a caterer to cater a party for you for the cost of ingredients?
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u/Longjumping_Test_760 14d ago edited 14d ago
What you say is true. Also a decent steak in €10-15 in a good butcher. Always ask for the gravy or sauce on the side in a restaurant so you can see and taste the quality of the meat without it being smothered in sauce
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u/howsitgoingboy Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 13d ago
No, not at all.
Obviously people need to be paid, I've no problem there.
But if a steak is going to cost 42 euro, it should look a lot better than that, that looks like sick on a plate.
When you let that steak out to a customer you put your business at risk to be honest.
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u/MrFnRayner 13d ago
I agree with that, as an ex chef I don't think this looks great at all for the price.
My argument isn't about that, it's the cost argument. The "well a steak in Tesco is a fiver", completely ignoring the lack of other overheads that are included with running a business.
Dining out isn't a value proposition in a direct money sense. You pay a premium to be served instead of cooking it yourself, and hoping that the chef cooking your food does a better job of it than you would.
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u/howsitgoingboy Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 13d ago
Do you have any issues with the portion sizes?
Like let's say that had more potato, and the salad was pine nuts/pesto/rocket/parmesan, at least then you're in the "rustic" area.
I'm just saying, it's not hard to produce better food than that, and for 42 euro I'd be complaining about it to the chef.
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u/MrFnRayner 13d ago
Again I agree. If I paid €42 and that was what I was given with an extra €6.50 per side I'd have just got up and walked off.
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u/Misodoho 14d ago
Orwell road? I got the steak there & felt shortchanged. Was very nice, but I would have liked the other half of the steak.
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u/SnooBooks348 14d ago
Where's the rest of the meat or potatoes, id be fuming paying 42 EUR for that. Call the Guards, the guards are to be called
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u/craictime 14d ago
You're paying for the experience as opposed to the food. The michelin boys put a lot of hard work into their craft. Hours spent perfecting a dish making a sauce, slow cooking a garnish.
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u/MooseTheorem 14d ago
You’re not wrong in fairness - mate of mine worked in Glovers Alley and the attention to detail they have to pay is insane; the studying he did alone was nuts for the wines they served. He loved it now don’t get me wrong, but it’s an entirely different level of service from staff working in a regular spot
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u/Additional_Olive3318 14d ago edited 14d ago
Steaks are the easiest dish to cook though.
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u/craictime 14d ago
What about everything else
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u/Additional_Olive3318 14d ago
Well I was talking about this meal, not Michelin in general, if that was ambiguous. Yes the Michelin skills can be amazing.
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u/craictime 14d ago
One steak is easy to cook. What about multiple steaks and multiple cuts along with chicken and fish and all the garnishes. Then do it 10hours in a hot, loud kitchen with multiple timings. People really don't appreciate what a chef goes through. Steak is easy.. cmon.
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u/endmost_ 14d ago
You're right, but what's pictured here is still very bad for that price. I've had much, much better steaks than that wide a side dish for €30 or less.
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u/Backrow6 14d ago
I got striploin two weeks ago in Bon Appetit, it was €28 for 9oz, another €5.50 for chips and it was one of the best steaks I've ever had.
OP's dish is muck. The chef that threw a generic mixed leaf salad into a puddle of peppercorn sauce has lost all interest in their trade.
As a general rule I try to avoid buying steak in restaurants, it's the hardest meal to add value to, in terms of the extra flavour and texture that a chef can add to an already expensive ingredient, if you're anyway competent in the kitchen you can cook restaurant quality steak at home with very little effort. It only pays off when you go to an exceptionally good restaurant with a reputation for good steak.
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u/EconomyCauliflower43 14d ago
Doesn't even look quality, roasted unpeeled potato, supermarket salad pack style salad, couple of large charred sprouts, all basic home cooking.
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u/enter_the_wu 14d ago edited 14d ago
Orwell Road restaurant for those wondering
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u/maevewiley554 14d ago
No harm in putting the name in the post. That’s ridiculous paying that amount and there’s barely anything on the plate
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u/splashbodge 14d ago
I'm glad to see some name and shaming here, too often we see a post like this and the OP doesn't want to say where it was. This is ridiculously overpriced.
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u/im_on_the_case 14d ago
Looked it up. Muppets posting pictures of similar sized dishes with 5 star reviews. Based on such feedback, the owners probably think they are doing a generous deal.
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u/Kloppite16 14d ago
yeah its Rathgar like where houses cost €2m. €42 is like 20 minutes salary to many of those people living there.
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u/The-Florentine . 14d ago
Because for some people Quality > Quantity. Insane I know.
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u/SalaciousDrivel 14d ago
I can appreciate quality over quantity but you can tell this dish is not quality.
Drowning in one thin sauce with little else of flavour and terrible plating.
It's just mediocre cooking with pretensions
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u/Fardays 14d ago
Wait…did they cut your steak?
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u/random-throwaway_ire 14d ago
The chef gets one half and the customer gets the other by the looks of it
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u/Dreenar18 14d ago
I mean even if they were included it'd still be ridiculous but FUCKING SPUDS AND SPROUTS NOT INCLUDED? the fuck?
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u/mugsymugsymugsy 14d ago
That's fucking shite. Paid 19 euro for a steak ciabatta style sandwich and chips in navan. Not cheap but it was decent and service was good too.
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u/ItIsAboutABicycle 14d ago
For that price I presume the restauranteur then calls over to your place and cuts the grass, washes the car, walks the dog?
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u/hesaidshesdead And I'd go at it agin 14d ago
Is that half a potato?
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u/enter_the_wu 14d ago
The spuds were € extra!
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u/Comfortable-Yam9013 14d ago
And that’s all you got? Two wedges???
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u/Zur__En__Arrh Resting In my Account 14d ago
If that’s a 9oz steak, then I’m the holy father.
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u/skuldintape_eire 14d ago
Salad and pepper sauce, that's weird to others too right?
Also that plate is shocking value.
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u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest 14d ago
Restaurants wonder why they're folding in droves.
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u/SimonMate 14d ago
This place definitely has a poster asking for the 9% VAT rate back somewhere
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u/Important_Farmer924 Westmeath's Least Finest 14d ago
Not even afraid of coming across like a massive bogger but that's not 42 quid worth of a steak, and spuds and veg being extra is a piss take.
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u/ItsTyrrellsAlt Wicklow 14d ago
Looks shite for the money. I would say that the presentation is on par with the lunch I used to get in DIT Bolton Street.
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u/Ok-Reference-1227 14d ago edited 14d ago
Please tell me they didn't serve it to you cut up like a mother would to their child. It looks dry as fuck on the inside which means they probably stuck it in the oven after being in the pan. It actually gets worse the longer you look at it.
The rocket and wedges 😭 you have to stick that on their Google reviews.
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u/caitnicrun 14d ago
If it's precut as you say, I wonder if it's even the full steak. Like, how would you know? Then they can collect the other slicings and basically charge another 40 euro for them as a "steak".
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u/Ok-Reference-1227 14d ago
There is only two reasons it would be served like that, and zero reasons it should have left the kitchen.
Its to mask the fact that the steak isn't 9onces which probably means it's a cheap cut that shrunk significantly during cooking,
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It was cut into to ensure it was cooked, which it wasn't, so they stuck it in the oven/microwave to finish cooking it and cut up the rest of it to make it look deliberate.
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u/caitnicrun 14d ago
Ever read George Orwell's "down and out in Paris"? He goes into many reasons the food at expensive restaurants is overpriced or outright terrible. Almost a hundred years later they're still at it.
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u/marshsmellow 14d ago
Which is apt as this was Orwell road. Absolutely amazing book BTW. That, the Road to Wigan Pier and Homage to Catalonia are amazing memoirs.
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u/Anbhas95 14d ago
Dry as fuck which is why it's literally swimming in a sauce. It's a tactic restaurants use to cover up the use of a bad quality steak. Which is why you'd never see this in a steakhouse.
I usually just eat what I'm given in a restaurant but for 40 quid, I'm sending that back
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u/DaemonCRO Dublin 14d ago
This is why I am not eating out anymore. I get the problem, but with these prices I don’t see the value.
I am not a cheap guy. I will pay 100€ for a meal. But then I have to feel like I am getting 100€ of value back. The restaurants are taking the piss now, and are serving food that is nowhere that value.
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u/PoppedCork 14d ago
what is it gold flaked gravy?
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u/appletart 14d ago
I'm a qualified chef and I'm still trying to figure it out - it looks like the skim off a greasy stock!
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u/craictime 14d ago
Chef here, a 9oz steak with that garnish, yeah, it's too much. I charge 36.50 for a 10oz sirloin, potato, pepper sauce, tomato, watercress.
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u/Ok-Brick-4192 14d ago
There is like €10 worth of ingredients on that plate.
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u/hesaidshesdead And I'd go at it agin 14d ago
It was cooked in a fancy pan though.
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u/ScrewLews 14d ago
On to McDonalds after to fill up I guess? Oh wait that's not far of that price these days lol.
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u/bobbyperu1971 14d ago
I’m sure that’s about 5oz of meat on the plate. They cut it up and spread it out to give the illusion of more. So is a favour and name the place for Gods sake
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u/Ironmeister 14d ago
A fool and their money are soon parted - but in Ireland it occurs 400% quicker......
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u/Finsceal 14d ago
This is that new Orwell Road place, right? I knew there was a reason they didn't post prices on their site.
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u/pipper99 14d ago
That is a lot of rocket and a lot of money for a sirloin. At least€10 over what i would expect at the high end and wouldn't be happy to receive that.
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u/TheStoicNihilist Never wanted a flair anyways 14d ago
I’d expect to be properly fed for €42 not just have my gullet tickled.
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u/Ok_Resolution9737 14d ago
Rathgar Prices maybe? Change your post code and you might get the rest of the potato
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u/Ill_Pair6338 14d ago
It does look well cooked, I would be annoyed if I ordered a steak and got steak strips that didn't constitute a full steak.
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u/ChefCobra 14d ago
Was a Chef for 17 years back in the day. Cutting up steak was always bullshit and I bet a slice or two went to "Chef".
It's cooked really good though.
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u/elfy4eva 14d ago
Jaysus at 42 for a bit of sirloin is very steep. They're trying and failing at a gourmet presentation here. I daresay you'd have got a better steak, portion and value in a pub and thrown in a couple of pints on top for that money.
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u/howsitgoingboy Saoirse don Phalaistín 🇵🇸 14d ago
I see half a potato, 220gms of steak, two Brussel sprouts and 1/4 bag of mixed leaf salad there.
With a runny sauce.
Probably €7 in produce there, if we're being generous.
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u/JigenMamo 14d ago
You got fleeced.
Welcome to modern restaurant food. There's absolutely no difference in the quality of what's being served vs what you can buy in tesco but you're still paying a 500% markup per plate.
System is fucked. Thank the greedy owners and suppliers for normalizing this insane business model.
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u/Ok_Personality_9662 14d ago
42 euros is nothing compared to the time wasted looking forward to it, and subsequently regretting everything
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u/IshotJR6969 14d ago
Did they cut it for you? And had the audacity to provide you with a quarter of a potato? Better servings were got during the famine
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u/LoudCommunication877 14d ago
Dublin sap tax. I wonder was the nonce from lovindublin near you smelling his own farts.
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u/Dangerous-Shirt-7384 14d ago
Looks great but thats about 6oz of beef, and anything over €30 is outrageous for a sirloin. Exception being a dry aged steak.
Usually restaurants have the sirloin at 10/12oz then the Ribeye will be 9/10oz and the Filet will be 7/8oz.
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u/WillieWasher1 14d ago
You could feed that to a vegetarian and they wouldn't cop it.
No disrespect to vegetarians intended.
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u/Virtual-Silver4369 14d ago
Looks like you were charged for how much it cost to house and feed that cow before it was slaughtered, in my opinion it should be double that.
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u/JohnHammond94 14d ago
At least if you were mugged you could report it