Supreme Court Second Amendment Update 12-14-2024

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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Totally not ATF 17d ago

I know people love dooming, but rescheduled is not necessarily a bad thing. We don't know why they rescheduled it, and it's not a denial.

It could just be that these are two highly political cases, and SCOTUS wants to wait until after the new congress is sworn in to avoid any possible 11th hour BS from an outgoing Congress and POTUS.

Also remember that SCOTUS drops controversial cases late in the term. Usually end of June if not July. This reschedule and delay doesn't really mean much at this point.

Before you cry DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM take a deep breath, sip your morning coffee, and just remember that we have no reason why this happened and getting worked up over speculation is pointless.

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u/Icy_Custard_8410 17d ago

Just remember the sooner we get the AWB/mag shit out of the way….sooner SBR/SBS can be attacked

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u/DigitalLorenz 17d ago

Something to keep in mind, the state response for Gray v Jennings was due this past Thursday and the response for MSI v Moore is due on Monday. Adding in those two cases makes it 4 cases to discuss, probably in quite detail. My hypothesis is that there is a faction that wants to take at least one 2A case, if not multiple case, and they want to present a pile of cases to the rest of the court.

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u/Icy_Custard_8410 17d ago

We know Alito and Thomas are ready per the response to IL cases.

Gorsch and Kavanugh I would hope , esp Kav after Heller 2.

The liberal wing does liberal anti things, Jackson maybe a bit more willing than the rest as she has said they need to take more 2A cases.

And finally Roberts and Barrett…I personally don’t trust Barrett. Roberts is like toilet paper in the wind, now that court packing threat is remove he should come along but he will always water down opinions as to not rock the boat too much

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u/VHDamien 17d ago

Strange, I trust Barret more than Roberts on 2a issues. Would you be willing to share why you mistrust her? I think Roberts is a legit squish when it comes to the 2a.

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u/Bright_Crazy1015 17d ago

Why does Jackson want more 2A cases, though? I won't ever trust she has good intentions about constitutional law in general, and surely not 2A.

After Bruen, I had a bit of faith, then we got Rahimi, and that decision stomped the faith right out. I expect that's why she wants more 2A cases.

Federal appointments aren't "for life" in our constitution. They're "for such a period of good behavior."

We need a mechanism that works. Requiring a 2/3 majority to impeach doesn't work when you have a partisan congress split down the middle by two parties and exploitable appointments.

Congress is forced to appoint the least bad, assuming they have a sane majority party at the time. That's a terrible way of doing things.

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u/Icy_Custard_8410 17d ago

Never said she had good intentions, she said there needs to be more 2A cases

She’ll fall in line with the rest of the liberals aka they hate the 2nd. so while she’ll be anti it’s still a vote to grant cert.

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u/Bright_Crazy1015 17d ago

Just making the point.

Fair enough. Cheers.

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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Totally not ATF 17d ago

We know several justices want more 2A cases. They just want the right one. Honestly the best thing we can do is relax and wait to see what they do, then plan from there.

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u/Silly-Kaleidoscope97 17d ago

I see your comments alot and I absolutely love them

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u/Thee_Sinner 15d ago

DOOOOOMMMMMMMMMM

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u/Organic-Jelly7782 17d ago

I'm (unfortunately) from California so aside from Snope, I've only been keeping track of 9th circus cases. I didn't know about Ocean State Tactical until recently.

Is it safe to say that Ocean State Tactical is similar to Duncan like Snope is similar to Miller v Bonta out of California? Or both statements/questions are just wrong.

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u/CaliforniaOpenCarry 17d ago

Ocean State challenges a magazine ban. Snope challenges an "assault rifle" ban. If you click on the docket numbers, you will be taken to the SCOTUS dockets for each case, read the cert petitions, and compare them to the California cases.

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u/AtheistConservative 17d ago

Not only are there multiple 2A cases but a challenge of Terry?!?! Oh, this is good.

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u/Thee_Sinner 15d ago

Can I get an quick explanation of what a challenge of Terry is?

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

The Terry stop is a police procedure that allows an officer to briefly detain and search a person for weapons if they reasonably suspect the person is armed or involved in criminal activity.

Think they’re talking about this? Not sure though

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u/Thee_Sinner 15d ago

Yeah, we should put that one in reverse.