r/geography 13d ago

In your opinion, what is the most beautiful city in the world? I'll start with Vancouver Canada Discussion

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u/Bigtsez 13d ago

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u/totriuga 13d ago edited 12d ago

Couldn’t agree with you more. Architecturally, it’s amazing. Over 2000 temples, many of which over 500 hundred years old, some 1000 years old. Surrounded by mountains, and next to a massive lake. Lots of tiny streets where it’s easy to bike. An amazing super long promenade along the river that goes on for hours (see picture). Kyoto all the way.

Edit: changed the 2000 thousand to just 2000

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u/Mailman354 13d ago

I've been to this spot. Great spot but this is a HEAVILY HEAVILY edited and glamorized photo

And idk if I'd call Kyoto gorgeous as a whole.

Gorgeous spots? For sure.

But outside those gorgeous temples and shines(aka the remaining 85% of the city) its pretty bland and boring.

Like south of Kyoto station gets cute. But still. It's nit literally temples and shrines everywhere. This photo specifically is a huge tourist spot that's a pain in the ass to walk through because of the hordes of tourists.

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u/chikanishing 13d ago

I agree. I really liked Kyoto and would definitely recommend it for tourists, but it felt like the city was touristy scenic spots mixed in amongst an average looking city (not that average looking means average in general- Tokyo and Osaka were lots of modern buildings but are fantastic cities!)

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u/MayIServeYouWell 13d ago

Yes, among the cities I've been to, Kyoto is certainly at or near the top.

However, that's if you're talking "beautiful up close". From a distance, Kyoto isn't much to look at - there's no skyline (well, very little) etc.

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u/Seamusmac1971 13d ago

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u/82wanderlust 12d ago

I think is my 2nd favorite town. The light when it starts to get dark...sunsets by the bridge, sipping wine... #LifeGoals

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u/one_pound_of_flesh 12d ago

Love Porto. Forget the wine caves, just chill on a tiny plaza overlooking the river. Eat tinned fish and sip fortified wine. Bliss.

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u/Vanillibeen 13d ago

I've been to Moose Jaw. Now I can die.

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u/masterbedmate 13d ago

Oh you haven’t truly died until you’ve been to Lloydminster.

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u/Content_Suspect 13d ago

As a Lloydminsterite, I genuinely did not expect Lloydminster to be uttered in this thread lmao

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u/BootToTheHeadNahNah 13d ago

I'm kinda partial to Stavely, AB

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u/MyLilPwny1404 13d ago

Grew up there, if you ever need meth that’s the place 😂

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u/Grouchy-Ad-2736 13d ago

Prairie humour is the best! 😎

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u/drblah11 13d ago

Worlds biggest moose and Al Capone tunnels!

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u/Big_Outcome_8585 13d ago

There’s always something to do

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u/Shelebti 13d ago

Just wait till you see Winnipeg!

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u/cg12983 13d ago

Regina. It rhymes with fun.

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u/kaitoren Human Geography 13d ago

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u/JabootieeIsGroovy 13d ago

is the water there cold? noticed it was on the north side of spain which has that chilly atlantic

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u/Mygoldeneggs 13d ago

San Sebastián is very rainy in general. In summer it gets very hot, +30°C during the day but it gets cold and chill during the night.

Southern cities in Spain do not give you a rest with the hear at night.

The water temperature during the summer is perfect. You can stay hours if you want but is chilly, so you can refresh from the day. Is colder than the Mediterranean sea.

During winter is cold, you can swim (some do it daily) but is definitely too much for a normal person. You wont die or anything if you fall but is cold.

There are good waves for surf around.

Is a beautiful city, with great food.

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u/KlingelbeuteI 13d ago

Came here to say San Sebastián or Biarritz. Top 2 imho

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u/mademden 13d ago

I have been living in Vancouver for 2,5 years now and recently visited San Sebastian for work in mid-May. %100 agree. Food, culture, mountains, ocean. Four horsemen completely. And as far as I saw, not so crowded and chaotic because of tourists like Barcelona.

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u/DesperateProfessor66 13d ago

I dont get it...I've been there and IMO Santander also in Northern Spajn looks even prettier. But you can call either the moat beautiful city in the world...I mean compare it to Rio with its tropical vibes its architecture and its people😁

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u/CalabreseAlsatian 13d ago

Food, beach, hiking, football…. I was in heaven.

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u/hallouminati_pie 13d ago

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Incredibly subjective but I'll throw my hat in the ring for Edinburgh. A symphony of stone as if the buildings were carved straight from the rock.

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u/Ein0p 13d ago

I'm from Newcastle so I've visited Edinburgh a fair few times at this point, if we're talking strictly cities I don't think there's anywhere I've been that looks prettier. It makes me happy just being there. Would've moved there for uni if they offered the course I'm doing, still might after I'm finished

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u/PapaGuhl 13d ago

Edinburgh, UK

Dubrovnik, Croatia

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u/grumpsaboy 13d ago

Old town Dubrovnik was beautiful

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u/FishUK_Harp 13d ago

The old town of Zadar is worth a look too. A Venetian city.

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u/the_procrastinata 13d ago

I LOVED Zadar, was blown away by the sea organ along their waterfront too. What a cool and fun place.

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u/ShouldaBennaBaller 13d ago

Took a driving trip from Dubrovnik to Zagreb back in 2018. Zadar was by far the coolest place we visited. Just a had a feel of that region that I can’t describe.

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u/Nysdsqpa321 13d ago

Was blown away by Zadar. Just was.

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u/PhilNH 13d ago

Edinburgh is very nice

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u/Rollover__Hazard 13d ago

The Royal Mile is something else for sure

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u/ewigesleiden 13d ago

Been to both. Good choice.

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u/benadrylxyz 13d ago

Dubrovnik is gorgeous

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u/OllieV_nl 13d ago

Valletta, Malta. Need to return there one day.

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u/nightandtodaypizza 13d ago

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u/SkomerIsland 13d ago

It looks amazing from this angle (at sea) but it feels like other Mediterranean towns when walking

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u/OllieV_nl 13d ago

I had never been to other Mediterranean towns. I'm sure they will all look like Valletta to me.

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u/Spiritual_Brain212 12d ago

"Every time I describe a city I am saying something about Venice" - Italo Calvino, Invisible Cities

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u/DAGuardian 13d ago

Malta mentioned

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u/Professional-Year377 13d ago

Great pick. Grand harbour exceeds the name, it’s a special kind of majestic. Fantastic area to explore

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u/Electrical_Stage_656 Geography Enthusiast 13d ago

It depends on what you define as a "city", anyway for me the most beautiful will be forever Sorrento(Italy)

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u/makanimike 12d ago edited 12d ago

I think it also depends on what we are judging to be beautiful.
A lot of the suggestions, imho, have beautiful landscapes around them, scenic areas and nice cityscapes from a good photo spot. But, over the entirety of the city, are sometimes a bit average.

For the city over large parts of it, and also including what it has to offer in terms of restaurants, shops, culture, I think Stockholm is a great example for a top contender. It sucks in terms of some intangible aspects though. (judging after having lived there for 4 years).

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u/masterjaga 13d ago

If we go Italy, let me suggest a place "off the beaten path": Noto

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u/Kakapocalypse 13d ago

Sleeper answer: the old medieval core of Tallinn, Estonia is really, really pretty if you like the old medieval city look.

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u/Dont-be-a-cupid 13d ago

In the last couple of weeks I have heard of Tallinn multiple times in different dramas - is there a tourism push going on there?

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u/gandalph91 13d ago

It’s been a tourist destination (big cruise port) for decades

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u/Kakapocalypse 13d ago

Idk, I went for a couple days when I visited Finland, and really enjoyed it.

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u/zybcds 12d ago

The modern part of Tallin looks beautiful too.

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u/Initial_Leadership37 13d ago

Cape Town

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u/ctnguy 13d ago

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u/stonklord420 13d ago

I have never seen this before and didn't realize what I had been missing

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u/communityneedle 13d ago

On the other hand, I have good friend from Cape Town who was absolutely astonished when he visited the US that none of the houses in my lower middle class suburban neighborhood was surrounded by 20 foot high concrete walls topped with razor wire. He was like "but how do you stop the roving gangs from coming in, slaughtering your whole family, and taking all your stuff?!"

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u/stonklord420 13d ago

I can't help but laugh at that but also it's absolutely fucked that is such a common issue. I'm not saying I'd want to live there but I'd never even clocked it as a place to visit, let alone something that might be so beautiful (in that picture, at least)

Anecdotal semi related story, I remember the culture shock when I went to Costa Rica a couple years back. This was my first time traveling anywhere south of Florida and all my other travel experiences have been across Europe.

We dropped right into the capital, rented a van, and drove into the heart of the city to meet my friends family we were visiting down there. Seeing literally all of the houses with 8-10ft massive steel fences, sometimes razor wired, massive gates, was absolutely crazy and something I'd never even considered existing. Really opened up my eyes to the living conditions of the majority of the world. I was also strongly advised to not stick out as a tourist, at least while in the Capital. Much different vibes in the beach towns that are pretty touristy, they feel much "safer" as a whole. Still tall fences, however.

That being said, Costa Rica is an absolutely amazing country and I'd highly recommend it. I never actually felt unsafe and everyone was lovely, but I did have the advantage of local knowledge to guide me for over half my time there.

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u/ZedFlex 13d ago

I lived in Costa Rica on exchange in high school. Thought I would be surfing everyday on the beach but was hosted about 15 minutes from the airport in the capitol. It was concrete blocks and barbed wire everywhere! Especially appreciated the broken bottles cemented to the top of fences for extra damage

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u/Hendrick_Davies64 13d ago

Just a minor set back to living in SA

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u/Nervous_Recover_5720 13d ago

Yeah, I visited recently and it was certainly strange not seeing a single person out/ being out after 7pm

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u/Bashira42 13d ago

Yeah. Went to a play when there. When finished, asked at the theater bar about getting a cab, should I just go out and flag one down on the nearest street. They looked panicked on my behalf, helped call one and then 2 of them walked me to it to have their own partner when walking back to the theater. That freaked me out a but, but still had a wonderful visit

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u/Johnny_Banana18 13d ago

When I went there were people all out and about in capetown

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u/thebeat86 13d ago

Eh I stayed in Cape Town in October and as long as you stayed out the Cape flats, you were never in crazy danger. If you drive up to Franschoek then it's no different from small USA towns. Jo'burg is worse for security, but the people in Jo'burg are delightful overall.

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u/Voidableboar 13d ago

Brah, idk where your friend was living, but it was certainly nowhere in Cape town. Gangs are a problem, but you're not gonna find 6 m walls and gangs roving killing anyone on sight indiscriminately, fucking come on

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u/IsaacClarke47 13d ago

Is the stadium from the 2010 World Cup?

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u/Anji_Mito 13d ago

The view arriving to Cape Town is beautiful

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u/beefycheesyglory 13d ago

Love it when my country gets mentioned on Reddit. Capetown is a beauty, but so is the entire country, Capetown is just the cherry on top.

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u/n4nd1 13d ago

I have a love and hate relationship with it but my pick is Budapest

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u/english_major 13d ago

For architecture and meandering, you can’t beat Budapest.

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u/Lechyon 12d ago

You cheater, that's two cities!

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u/SteveRedmondFan 12d ago

Three actually

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u/ellstaysia 13d ago

I live in vancouver but I'd say st. john's newfoundland on a rare sunny day.

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u/applex_wingcommander 13d ago

I didn't think I'd see St John's get a mention but it would be my vote. This is where I saw snow fall for the first time and it was incredibly beautiful

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u/l_am_meepmoop 13d ago

NEWFOUNDLAND MENTIONED AAAAHHHH 🔥🔥🔥🔥

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u/mitoboru 13d ago

People have different definitions of beauty. But to me, it should not matter what season you visit. It should have beauty year round.  Vancouver is definitely a good candidate for sure. 

I’ll add Hanoi. 

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u/sandwichkiller420 13d ago

Rio de Janeiro

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u/OmegaKitty1 13d ago

Agreed. Stunning setting and such a good vibe (in the touristy areas)

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u/LegendLobster 13d ago

Had to scroll way too far to see this. Rio was absolutely stunning, I can’t wait to go back!

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u/Fickle_Effect3643 13d ago

Sydney

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u/barra333 13d ago

On that note, for anyone anyone arriving on a long haul flight I highly recommend a window seat on the left side of the plane. The arrival pattern generally takes you on a perfect loop of the harbour.

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u/dangerislander 13d ago

I'm still surprised how close the plane descends past the CBD. You get such a nice view. But you realise why they have height restrictions.

But yeah, even though I live here, I love staring out the window looking down on the entire city and trying to find my house haha.

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u/dangerislander 13d ago

I live here and I'm still in awe everytime I drive over the Harbour Bridge into the CBD. The harbour is so beautiful.

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u/Voltstorm02 13d ago

Sydney is absolutely gorgeous. I visited over the summer and the Vivid Sydney light show was incredible. Even during the day it's absolutely gorgeous

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u/No_Communication5538 13d ago

Specifically Manly suburb, beautiful beach town 20 minutes from a major city centre by the most beautiful ferry ride in the world.

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u/GasOnFire 13d ago

I’ve been all over the world. Both Sydney and Melbourne hold a special place in my heart.

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u/kaboom_2 13d ago

As a Canadian I second this. I’ve seen a good number of cities, Sydney is my number 1, so far.

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u/Less_Ad9224 13d ago

I don't know... I've been to Sydney, it's a pretty shitty little steel town at the ass end of nova scotia. I wouldn't got back.

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u/Electronic_Star_7575 13d ago

Sydney harbour during a sunset is amazing

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u/cat757_ 13d ago

I came here to say this too!

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u/thefailmaster19 13d ago

Location-wise Cape Town

Architecturally Amsterdam or Edinburgh

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u/NorthernJimi 13d ago

Vancouver's setting is stunning, and the parkland is beautiful, but I don't think it's that interesting from an architectural perspective. Lots of beautiful cities to choose from, but my vote goes to Edinburgh.

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u/YYZbase 13d ago

Looking north anyway. That’s why I prefer looking south from Burrard Inlet/North Shore, you get the postmodern glass condos but also the early 20th century Waterfront Station, the Art Deco Marine Building, the 70s Bentalls/Harbour Centre/Granville Square, and Canada Place. But you don’t get the mountains in that shot.

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u/boomfruit 13d ago

Well it is a geography subreddit

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u/the_short_viking 13d ago

Tbf, Edinburgh is a lot older than Vancouver. Nowhere in the world do they construct buildings like that anymore.

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u/Amedais 13d ago

Totally agree. Lots of ugly buildings imo.

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u/SanitariumJosh 13d ago

Salzburg, Austria or Olso, Norway.

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u/ContraCanadensis 13d ago

Even better is Innsbruck, Austria

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u/ihatexboxha 13d ago

That literally looks like Cities Skylines

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u/Intelligent_Pop1173 13d ago edited 13d ago

Cape Town, South Africa is one of the most beautiful I’ve ever been to. The ocean and Table Mountain are stunning.

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u/JackfruitCivil7553 13d ago

Honolulu

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u/Snoutysensations 13d ago

Honolulu is a lovely city in a fantastic location but suffers from poor urban planning and architectural mediocrity. Still, hard to compete with Hawaii.

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u/angrygenzer 13d ago

San Francisco

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u/makerofshoes 13d ago

Prague, Czech Republic, when it comes to architecture

When it comes to vistas, Palm Springs, California is gorgeous

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u/ShinkenDon 13d ago

Looking for a Prague comment and glad I found one

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u/makerofshoes 13d ago

I’m biased because I live here, but every time I go to another city it’s like, “Meh” 🫤

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u/slumberboy6708 13d ago

I moved to Prague recently and I'm stunned by the beauty of the city. The architecture I see everyday in my day to day life is just breathtaking.

The fact that it's extremely safe and that public transporation is awesome makes it even better.

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u/my143302 13d ago

Prague for me too. My husband and I visited years ago before we were married and can’t wait to take our kids there one day. It’s the top of my list.

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u/I_COMMENT_2_TIMES 13d ago

From what I’ve seen/heard, either Rio de Janeiro or Cape Town! At the very least for their dramatic landscape.

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u/RobotDinosaur1986 13d ago

San Francisco is usually considered in the top 3 with those other two.

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u/AllaniSalami 13d ago

Gdańsk, Poland

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u/loveliverpool 13d ago edited 13d ago

San Francisco is quite incredible

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u/TostiBuilder 13d ago

as an European tourist that spent a little over 2 months in 5 US states, San Francisco was far and beyond the most breathtaking city. It had its depressing troubles of homelessness and excessive car use. It was also the only US city that a true feeling of being in a place that has its own quirks and mannerisms. It was the only city that felt “real” in the sense that everyone i met and talked to were sincere. Can not wait to go back.

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u/ghdawg6197 13d ago

Can’t believe I had to scroll this far down. It’s mismanaged but has the absolute best urban geography of basically anywhere

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u/ramoner 13d ago

San Francisco is the city of improving views, meaning every time you go out you can successfully find a better view than the last.

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u/DardS8Br 13d ago

Looking at the Bay from near that weird Mormon temple is unparalleled

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u/Ill-Calligrapher-131 13d ago

Samarkand and Bukhara in Uzbekistan are beautiful and amazing, although the beauty is sort of concentrated in a small part and the rest is classic Soviet city but with lots of parks.

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u/Xcalat3 13d ago

Sevilla, Spain

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u/[deleted] 13d ago

Utrecht

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u/ChimpoSensei 13d ago

From afar every city looks pretty good. Once you get down inside of it, not so much, Vancouver included.

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u/Xancrim 13d ago

For your consideration, Nafplio, Greece

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The town's on a peninsula, which is on a peninsula, which itself is on a peninsula. Nafplio is home to three old fortresses as well as being the original capital of the Kingdom of Greece.

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u/Rryon 13d ago

Chicago in the summertime

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u/Melospiza 12d ago

Also, Chicago on a sunny day in the winter after the harbors have frozen and there's snow on the ground. 

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u/TumbleWeed75 13d ago

Strasbourg. Heidelberg. Lucerne.

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u/Individual-Eye3907 13d ago

From a geographical standpoint, Seattle, WA is certainly one of them. It’s surrounded by Puget Sound, Lake Washington and two mountain ranges that include volcanoes. Also, it’s a nice blend of an urban environment and forests. Vancouver BC and San Francisco are also up there for North America.

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u/Quinnalicious21 13d ago

Cape Town

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u/wodiscolombia 13d ago

I want to provide a counterpoint here, the city sits in a bowl and air contamination is terrible. Yes great surroundings, etc… it is facing a constant drought, but yeah the air contamination is awful. Especially in winter (like in the picture) when the air does move. You can actually see the pollution though the shadows of the buildings. Love my time there though

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u/MartinBP 13d ago

Pretty much every mountainous city is like that, most of the highly polluted cities in Europe (outside Poland) are in the Balkans and Italy precisely because of that.

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u/ninergang47 13d ago

this is an AI picture

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u/Bananas_oz 13d ago

It really depends on the distance you view from.

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u/GlenGraif 13d ago

For me it’s either Prague or Salzburg.

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u/chocotacogato 13d ago

Munich, Germany! 🇩🇪

I only had a 22 hour layover there and was there on a weird time for tourism (My grandmas funeral was in late October). But it took my breath away just to be walking around and seeing the neighborhoods, old churches, and all that. I didn’t really plan anything as I’m technically not supposed to do fun stuff in mourning. But I did get up extremely early to walk around and just really take in the atmosphere. My hotel was near Theresienwiese, and I walked my way up to Marienplatz before flying back to USA.

My other one would be Istanbul, Turkey 🇹🇷. My friend was living there and showed me around! So much wealth in history and culture! Lots of beautiful mosques and palaces to see too! Amazing how you can see everything from different time periods just come together!

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u/ebinovic 13d ago

Granada, Spain is definitely in this competition for me

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u/brtld 13d ago

This is edited. Mt Fuji is nowhere near that close to Tokyo Tower.

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u/cabesaaq 13d ago

You can barely see Fuji in 90% of Tokyo lol

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u/Essence-of-why 13d ago

This long lens shit has to stop.

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u/nepppii Geography Enthusiast 13d ago

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seoul is a great candidate as well if someone hasn't already commented seoul

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u/crispycrunchcookie 13d ago

Chicago, something about the lake in the spring or the river at night that doesn’t exist in any other American city.

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u/castlebanks 13d ago
  • Buenos Aires
  • Paris
  • New York
  • Rio de Janeiro
  • Vienna
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u/redroowa 13d ago

Sydney

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u/mydriase Cartography 13d ago

OP hasnt been to Europe

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u/Antoine73 13d ago

Paris

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u/NagiJ 13d ago

So overrated that it's underrated

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u/Wabuukraft 13d ago

Realest thing I’ve read in a minutee

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u/ghdawg6197 13d ago

There’s a whole genre of city that’s just leagues above anything else: mountainy temperate climate near a semi-enclosed navigable body. Sydney, Lisbon, San Francisco, Vancouver, Cape Town, those kinds. Between them, the beauty differences are just negligible

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u/JoebyTeo 13d ago

Most beautiful city or most beautiful location for a city? Vancouver is a beautiful location for a city.

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u/AI_ElectricQT 13d ago edited 13d ago

To me, any truly beautiful city needs to be characterized by two things:

  • Really old architecture (modernism basically destroyed beauty forever), a sense of history everywhere.

  • Streets made for walking, facilitating a dense, vibrant city life.

Bonus points for an organic, medieval street layout, as well as any kind of towers, cliffs or hills to make for an interesting skyline.

Because of these two criteria, it's only really European and a few Latin American and Asian cities that can even qualify. China has some supremely beautiful places, but they're all smaller in scale, towns at best, whereas the big cities are modernist monstrosities, and this is the trend all over Asia.

Therefore, the most beautiful city that I've seen would be Venice, followed by Prague, Tallinn, Copenhagen, and Istanbul.

The best skyline is Istanbul by far, while Copenhagen gets bonus points for being the most liveable, least touristy of these cities.

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u/Pawneewafflesarelife 12d ago

San Diego's geography is gorgeous.

York's historical architecture is awesome.

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u/CrimeBot3000 12d ago

Cesky Krumlov, Czech Republic .

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u/RealGdawgTheButcher 13d ago

Reykjavík - Iceland

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u/sebastopol999 13d ago

Vancouver is absolutely breathtaking from a distance, but oddly enough once you're in the city it seems like just another city.

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u/LowCranberry180 13d ago

Given the geography and history, Istanbul

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u/AutomatedCognition 13d ago

Is this what Vancouver looks like?

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u/Burn_n_Turn 13d ago

That is the downtown core of Vancouver on a very nice day in summer. Population 70k, very dense but 10% of the city's population.

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u/_s1m0n_s3z 13d ago

The downtown core, and the north shore mountains, yes.

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u/starwalkertop 13d ago

its hard to beat Rio de Janeiro

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u/SongsForBats 13d ago

I am very fond of Amsterdam.

I've never been but Lofoten Norway seems breathtaking.

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u/kvikklunsj 13d ago

Lofoten is no city, it’s a group of islands

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u/rpjfarsheds 13d ago

Waalwijk

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u/Chaosido20 13d ago

Coincidentally visiting now!

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u/KyleAndLaurenTravels 13d ago

Love seeing my home city mentioned but also loving all the mentions of Edinburgh. I was blown away when I had the chance to visit. Luckily the weather was great too.

That being said I’ll still say Vancouver minus the lack of nice architecture

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u/Maia-Odair 13d ago

Edinburgh is truly magical

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u/Bayaco_Tooch 13d ago

Dubrovnik, Edinburgh, Lucerne, Toledo (Spain), Victoria, BC are probably my top 5

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u/Special_North1535 13d ago

San Francisco, im but im a surfer so a bit biased

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u/Rich_Size8762 13d ago

Rio de janeiro

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u/zybcds 12d ago

Quebec city

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u/ILiefdeLights 12d ago

Amsterdam , if I had to choose one but it’s hard to choose so many good ones .

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u/fortifyinterpartes 12d ago

Too car dependent. Amsterdam, Venice, Copenhagen blow Vancouver away