r/geography Geography Enthusiast 13d ago

Oman - a country rarely spoken about. What's happening there? Discussion

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Oman is located in a area we heat about a lot for an array of reasons - there are many famous and newsworthy spots close by from dubai to Doha to Iran and Yemen...... what goes on in Oman? Let us know how life is here and any relevant info on its current state....

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u/etzel1200 13d ago

TFW you’re a mostly stable and successful Arab Muslim country and the world basically forgets you exist because of it.

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u/Feanorasia 13d ago

being peaceful and forgotten is the best thing to happen to u if ur in the Middle East

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u/Xref_22 13d ago

Fuck yes. "Some people don't understand that sitting in your own house alone in peace, eating snacks and minding your own business is priceless." Tom Hardy

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u/WildeWeasel 13d ago

So you're saying Oman is The Shire of the Middle East?

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u/Xref_22 13d ago

“Do you remember the Shire, Mr. Frodo? It'll be spring soon. And the orchards will be in blossom. And the birds will be nesting in the hazel thicket. And they'll be sowing the summer barley in the lower fields... and eating the first of the strawberries with cream. Do you remember the taste of strawberries?”

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u/MeOldRunt 13d ago

"Dude, it's been, what, three weeks since we left? I didn't forget my fuckin' home in three whole weeks. Stop jerkin yourself for five minutes and help me figure out a way off this fuckin' volcano!"

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u/StuffThingsMoreStuff 13d ago

Right away Mr frodo.

<Shove>

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u/snootsintheair 13d ago

I love this fan fic. And Sam and everyone else lived happily ever after at the minor cost of Frodo’s life. The end.

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u/JesusStarbox 13d ago

It was 6 months.

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u/Defqon1punk 13d ago edited 13d ago

I don't remember where I saw it, but someone was claiming the whole thing was exactly 13 months, to the day, from when they left the shire, to when they reunite in Rivendale after.

Edit: guy under said I'm wrong then deleted his comment, but

Maybe I'm misunderstanding? Are they saying 6 months spent on Mt. Doom?

Cause I'm checking the link the other guy provided, and I'm showing April 13th 3018 to April 8th 3019 was roughly the journey from shire to eagles

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u/DogsRNice 13d ago

It was 13 months from when they left the shire to when they returned

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u/Sicherlich_Serioes 13d ago

Best thing to happen to a country, period. Look at the Swiss.

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u/oakolesnikov04 13d ago

Aint NOBODY forgot about Switzerland lmao

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u/UsernameChallenged 13d ago

Totally, I thought they were in a similar situation as Yemen - glad they are not.

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u/gofishx 13d ago

Oman, that would be bad

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u/Leewashere21 13d ago

Yemen it would

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u/gofishx 13d ago

Im not sure houthis puns are even for

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u/Incognidoking 13d ago

People like me! I saudis puns and had to join in

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u/thebigfuckinggiant 13d ago

Kuwait, what are we talking about?

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u/All_business_always 13d ago

None of this Israel.

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u/micma_69 12d ago

Unfortunately, that Israel.

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u/topofthefoodchainZ 13d ago

Uniranic puns about Arabian peninsula countries.

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u/brfoley76 13d ago

They Arabic lame. I farsi the thread will end soon.

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u/SemperAliquidNovi 13d ago

I hope Jordan with all these puns.

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u/I_am_notagoose 13d ago

Can you please stop joking and be Syrias for a second

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u/BroccoliCertain1467 13d ago

Emirates an award in pun-making

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u/zwermp 13d ago

Gold Jerry.

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u/torrinage 13d ago

Omantine

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u/Mental_Medium3988 13d ago

Oman that sounds great.

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u/wjbc 13d ago edited 13d ago

Oman seems to like it that way, though. They have no desire to attract attention.

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u/DankeSebVettel 13d ago

Better to live in a quiet country than an interesting country

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u/constantin_NOPEal 13d ago

I'm trying to be like Oman

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u/UnclassifiedPresence 13d ago

No news is good news, as they say

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u/MysticSquiddy 13d ago

Given the list of controversies of the region, that's probably for the better for Oman

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u/GrovesNL 13d ago

Muslim

Ibadi is at least a little unique to Oman. I don't know how they differ from Sunni or Shia, but it is something that differentiates them from other Arab Muslim countries.

All I know is they have a different religion colour shade on EUIV haha.

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u/Draig_werdd 13d ago

The original split was due to how to decide the successor to Muhammad, in the end there was a three way split. The future Sunni went for one of the companions of Muhammad while the Shia ( shīʿat ʿAlī = followers of Ali), went with Ali (cousin and son-in-law of Muhammad). A third group, Kharijites appeared a bit later claiming that the successor should be chosen by God and could be any Muslim. They were quite aggressive and fundamentalist, killing for example Ali, and having several violent revolts until they were eventually mostly eliminated during the Abbasid period. They considered other Muslims as pagans so nobody liked them. Only one group survived, the only one that was more moderate, the current Ibadis.

Since the original split a lot of differences have accumulated between the three branches, but in general Ibadi's are closer to Sunnis. The main differences versus Sunni are that they believe that the Quran was created by God at some point not as always existing. They also still have the original view that anybody could be the leader of Muslims, it does not have to be hereditary.

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u/TelecomVsOTT 13d ago

They also still have the original view that anybody could be the leader of Muslims, it does not have to be hereditary.

Rich of them to believe that. In the meanwhile Oman's rulers are hereditary yet they don't bat an eye.

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u/hirst 13d ago

The old sultan (silver daddy, 10/10 beard) couped his father in the 60s and then led Oman to prosperity in the modern era so yeah I guess it’s hereditary but not as cut and dry as you portray here

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u/jamnin94 13d ago

I just looked it up and Oman is apparently 45% Ibadi Muslim which is a news to me. I didn’t even know about the Ibadi sect until just now. Thanks for the new info internet stranger!

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u/DaddyCatALSO 13d ago

They evolved form the old Kharijites, who, initially supporters of Ali, when he agreed to let th e matter be decided another way, rejected the entire idea of a caliphate. I *think* Ibadi believe everyone else is in error but are content to let said evrybody else go their ways

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u/PitotTea 13d ago

I just want to add that I too have learned random facts from EUIV (and CKII) lol. I love that this is your source and based on other replies seems to have merit to it!

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u/GrovesNL 13d ago

I won't admit how much I learned, or at least started learning about from EUIV lol. If I see religions, cultures, nations on there that I haven't heard of before I've gone on some rabbitholes reading about them afterwards!

Despite maybe some historical inaccuracies, it's at least a great launchpad for learning about geography and demographics!

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u/JagmeetSingh2 13d ago

>Ibadi is at least a little unique to Oman. I don't know how they differ from Sunni or Shia, but it is something that differentiates them from other Arab Muslim countries.

The ibaadiyah are a sub sect of the khawaarij, though they don't like when you bring up that connection

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u/Impossible-Crazy4044 13d ago

Absolute monarchy, firing squads for capital punishment, no punishment for female genital mutilation… yeah, checks out as Arab Country

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u/Which_Environment911 13d ago edited 13d ago

hey can you even call us arabs without it?
joking aside, there is a lot that I condemn here, but I love that its authentic unlike the rest of the souless places of the gulf

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u/butt_sama 13d ago

Hey, you probably meant "condemn" or "don't condone" here. Just a friendly heads up :)

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u/Which_Environment911 13d ago

sorry my english isnt the best😭😭

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u/dumbacoont 13d ago

Hey, no worries, it’s getting better

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u/Illustrious-Okra-524 13d ago

Even native speakers mix those up constantly. I was confused about it for a moment just last week

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u/isaidillthinkaboutit 13d ago

Oman you don’t want to know!

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u/HoeImOddyNuff 13d ago

Don’t worry Oman, you’re pretty cool, and I didn’t forget about you.

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u/AssumptionExtra9041 13d ago

Oman is stable, is relatively rich. It is not involved as much in international politics as its neighbors and it also does not prominently commit human right violations.

So, to keep it short: (almost) everything going on in the neighboring countries is also happening in Oman but to a much shallower degree.

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u/leonevilo 13d ago

only visited once a few years ago and it was a lot like i imagined the arabian peninsula to be when i was a kid, when i was only influenced by old tales and not current news.

it's wealthy, but not in your face rich, laid back, open to the world and the good life, and quite diverse. it has some of the oldest forts and ports in the world, with settlements dating back over 10k years and remnants of trade with east africa and the indus valley dating back almost as far. some surprisingly green areas (especially after monsoon) and pretty good diving.

even in salalah you won't realize there's a civil war going on next door in yemen (i realize most of the fighting is in western areas of yemen).

i understand it's not all roses, but if the rest of the gulf was more like oman this world would have a lot less problems.

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u/gattomeow 13d ago

The distances in the Arabian peninsula are really quite vast. From Muscat in Oman to Sa'naa in Yemen is about 2400 km.

To put that into context for Benelux people (many of whom lurk on Reddit), that's about the same distance as Rotterdam to Gibraltar.

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u/BayouByrnes 13d ago edited 12d ago

For those in the US, think Grand Rapids, Michigan (middle of the state) to Miami, Florida. 1,453 miles. Muscat to Sa'naa is 1,465 miles.

EDIT: To clarify, I just used google maps and driving routes to get these distances. These are not straight line numbers.

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u/planetmoo 13d ago

For those in Australia, think around the corner to Bruce's place along the Gympie track.

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u/krombough 13d ago

For those in Canada, it's one half of Ontario over. Which is a huge difference. You go from one frozen marshy bog, to another frozen marshy bog.

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u/Zoole 13d ago

For those in confusion, go fuck yourself and learn geography

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u/SureBlueberry4283 13d ago

For those on Reddit that’s 12,631,200 bananas of average length (19cm) 🍌

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u/JustInChina50 13d ago

For those in England, it's the distance between its 2 biggest cities times 15.

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u/Mysticalnarbwhal2 13d ago

Holy shit that's massive. Also hell yeah, Grand Rapids rocks!

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u/Xxuwumaster69xX 13d ago

It's massive because it's off by over 300 miles. https://www.distancecalculator.net/from-sanaa-to-muscat

The actual distance between the two cities is under 1100 mi.

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u/AssumptionExtra9041 13d ago

I never got the chance to visit it, so thanks for your insightss! I think Oman would be the first go-to place I'd visit in the middle east. Would totally agree on your conclusion :)

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u/crappenheimers 13d ago

I would strongly recommend Jordan as a first go to place in the middle east!

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u/deej312 13d ago

My barbers are all Jordanian and it's recently made my list. Seems like a fun place. How easy would it be to go to some of the other countries in the region? I'm pretty sure they don't have rail connecting them.

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u/PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt 13d ago

You'll have to fly, but flights are cheap and plentiful.

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u/young_twitcher 13d ago

What is the advantage of Jordan over Oman? Seems like everyone is going to Jordan which makes it less attractive.

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u/PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt 13d ago

Jordan has a tight cluster of absolutely amazing archeological sites that are managed as national parks and therefore very accessable. In addition to the biblical sites, the ancient cities of Jerash and Petra are worth the trip.

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u/young_twitcher 13d ago

From what I have seen online, there are so many tourists in Petra that you can barely move or see anything. So it doesn’t really encourage me to go there.

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u/PhileasFoggsTrvlAgt 13d ago

Petra is a huge site. At it's peak the city probably had a population over 20k. The entry road can be a bit tight at peak hours, but once it opens up to the city it's not crowded. If you climb to some of the high sites you'll only see a handful of people on the climb.

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u/crappenheimers 13d ago

Wadi Rum is incredible, Amman is awesome and safe to visit, there are some castles there, Petra is hella cool. Just great places to visit, very adventurous. I dont really understand why you care if other people are going there a lot? It's a very cool place!

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u/farronsundeadplanner 13d ago

You two are friends and have never touched each other and will not do so in the future.

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/international-travel/International-Travel-Country-Information-Pages/Oman.html

Also, would research other women's experiences traveling there. It's probably safe, especially in tourist areas, but they have some similarities to their neighbors in this regard.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/location/middle-east-and-north-africa/middle-east/oman/report-oman/

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u/JessicaSmithStrange 13d ago

I've just looked through the disability section on the travel advisory, as well.

I'm feeling a bit anti social, so I think I'm going to go back to lurking now, because this has been asked and answered about 10 times in the space of 2 minutes.

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u/farronsundeadplanner 13d ago

Sorry if my comment was overly intense or anything. Just wanted to be clear on how careful some people need to be (unfortunately).

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u/JessicaSmithStrange 13d ago

It's not that.

I'm actually seriously unwell right now, and when I got something like 10 replies in quick succession, my brain locked up.

I should have checked on the disability situation anyway, as well, so I'm glad to have the advisories.

I'm a part time wheelchair user, so while something like the Parthenon can be made more accessible at a cost to historical authenticity, I do expect to have to get creative if I get to go anywhere, especially since I know the struggle with any sort of narrow spaces, because of my home town.

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u/leonevilo 13d ago

fair question, but i couldn't say for sure having travelled as a hetero couple. i seem to remember rumors about the previous sultan being gay and quietly lifting most sanctions against lgbt people. i'd guess there's a "don't ask don't tell" dl policy like in dubai, where it's nobodys business what you do behind closed doors, but outside you don't show affection.

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u/Physical_Foot8844 13d ago

The previous sultan was gay and educated in the UK iirc.

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u/sitbar 13d ago

As someone who has lived there for many years - I really don’t think it would matter at all. Obviously don’t be making out in public or whatever but no one’s gonna bat an eye at you two just existing

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u/JessicaSmithStrange 13d ago

That was more of a problem when we were teenagers, and were pda'ing all over the place,

We're a lot more mature nowadays, just because that's how it works.

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u/One_Necessary3121 13d ago

The most recent Sultan was openly gay…..it’s probably a don’t ask don’t tell type of place

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u/rorenspark 13d ago

Do you know if following Ibadi Islam helped with the stability?

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u/Maleficent_Resolve44 13d ago

They're just irrelevant really geopolitically. Not many people live there and they're less wealthy than the other gulf nations. Not much to do with ibadism I think. Qatar and the UAE are also internally stable nations but they have a much bigger impact on world affairs.

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u/Yvisna 13d ago

I wouldn’t say they are irrelevant, just little known to the general public. Oman is a very important country for that region because, being neutral with everyone, it is something like the place where other countries go to dialogue and reach agreements. That is, it is something like a diplomatic link, similar to what Switzerland is in Europe.

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u/mogg1001 13d ago

Probably, by default it keeps them out of the Sunni-Shia dispute as they’re an uninvolved party.

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u/MoonMan75 13d ago edited 13d ago

It is kinda funny because the Ibadis are a off-shoot of the Khawarij, an absolutely insane sect of Islam which was responsible for starting tons of chaos in the early days of Islam. Imagine them as the original ISIS. They were despised by all the other Muslims and eventually crushed. However, they recruited from the impoverished and oppressed, so they have always stuck around in the background and manifest in different forms throughout Islamic and Arab history. There's some modern scholarly work which presents a different view of the Khawarij which is interesting.

Anyways, the Ibadis are a distinct sect, but in reality, they are almost identical to Sunni Muslims, with a few Shia influences. The main differences is political, the Ibadis have differing ideas on the caliphate and have some disputes with the Sunnis over esoteric Islamic philosophy.

But overall, I don't think following Ibadi Islam helped with the stability. Oman had a conflicts in the 1960s-1970s where thousands died. So it has a unstable history. The stability today just comes from Oman being pretty irrelevant overall, it likes to be a neutral party in most major conflicts, they are a dictatorship, and economically/social stable.

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u/solkov 13d ago

I think the policies of Sultan Qaboos to basically stay out of conflicts helped.

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u/Calimt 13d ago

What did Avicci see in Muscat that made him……

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u/alkhemisz 13d ago

They are rich but not the show-off type like their neighboring country. I think i saw video about them taking different approaches in developing their building than other arab country, like keeping the traditional arabic architecture rather than building modern skyscrapers

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u/LyLnXo 13d ago

The division of wealth is also much less extreme.

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u/alkhemisz 13d ago

Yeah i only saw informations from internet. But from what i can see they are more grounded and friendlier than the rest of Arab peninsula

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u/wiseroldman 12d ago

I watched a YouTube video comparing Oman to Yemen. The video noted that Oman historically is a lot more religiously tolerant than their neighbors and this has given them stability. When you’re not constantly killing each other over religious beliefs, you can focus more on important things like developing your country. Who knew right?

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u/six_feet_above 13d ago

Yup they have national building codes restricting height, colors, styles etc. Driving through the capital city of Muscat is surreal. Like a film set.

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u/alkhemisz 13d ago

Yesss! Makes you wonder why the rest of their neighbors dont do the same approach. Arabic architecture is beautiful

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u/zoinkability 13d ago

Probably a question of values. The other countries' leaders value western-style glitz, Omani leaders seem to value traditional arab aesthetics.

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u/TundraForager 13d ago

From what my Omani friends have shown me, a more chill UAE/Saudi, pretty rich people, though they don’t really think it, less garish large developments like the Royal Opera house, beautiful place, lots of Subcontinental “migrant workers”. Omanis are pretty chill with life, pretty content with living in a non-representative monarchy 

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u/supapoopascoopa 13d ago

Absolute monarchy, sharia law, no free press or ability to criticize the government, torture, no due process rights

I give them credit for being peaceful but it only seems chill with respect to it’s neighbors.

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u/Physical-Arrival-868 13d ago

As a citizen of Oman Sharia law is not the absolute law of the land, it is seen as a guidance for our own laws. Also dynamics in Oman don't necessarily rely on free press, it's a paternalistic dynamic where we still have trust in our institutions to hold people accountable and resolve the concerns of the population, and until now, that's worked. People constantly criticize the government, you just can't criticize the sultan publicly, however it is common to find people trashing the ministry of education, the police, or the ministry of labour for policies they disagree with. Recently, media laws have relaxed in Oman, and we are having steady progress being made towards a freer press. Despite what democratic states may believe, In Oman as is the case with many non-democracies the people are not constantly in opposition with the state, and healthy communication between the two does exist.

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u/supapoopascoopa 13d ago

This is educational, thanks. I can see the appeal though it still seems very fragile as you depend on the good intentions of a single person.

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u/Physical-Arrival-868 13d ago

That's true, we had bad sultans in the past. I guess every system depends on the good will of people though, and Donald Trump doesn't seem to have any left 😅

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u/Just_RandomPerson 13d ago

Ok, but Americans only have themselves to blame, and it's only 4 years. Also, impeachment should be a thing... If you have a bad sultan, there's nothing you can do and it's not your fault.

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u/ScalsThePenguin 13d ago edited 13d ago

White American guy here. Dude I left there yesterday. Spent 2 weeks driving all through that country. You don't have any idea of what you're talking about.

Hung out with locals, migrants, and expats. Male and female. Otw to the airport the driver was literally talking shit about the sultan.

I don't understand why people think reading a couple selected web articles, or YouTube videos is adequate enough to make an opinion. It's embarrassing.

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u/sitbar 13d ago

If you’ve lived there or spent any time there you would know that it is actually really chill there.

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u/la_bata_sucia 13d ago

Is it chill for the women and the migrant workers? Asking seriously

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u/Continental-IO520 13d ago

Yes. My mum used to work there. It's a lot better than the neighbouring countries

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u/RaoulDukeRU 13d ago

They have a rainy season in the South, that is unique on the Arabian peninsula. People from Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar and Kuwait are going there then and make a "vacation in the rain".

Us Northern, Eastern and Central Europeans are fleeing the rain and make vacation in the South of Europe and North Africa to flee from the rain and "soak up" some sun (good for the vitamin D balance, bad for our skin) and Arabs travel to get rain, haha. I really had to literally lol when I saw the happy people enjoying the water. With women in completely soaked abayas. In contrast to our women in tiny bikinis lying on the beach.

What also makes Oman unique is that its the only Islamic country where the rulers and most people follow the Ibadi school of Islam (with only some tiny minorities in North Africa).

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u/Physical-Arrival-868 13d ago

I'm a Omani, to give you the rundown on my beautiful country let's start with culture.

Culture: Oman is a relatively conservative population, religion plays a big part in people's lives and family is at the heart of dynamics, where the heads of different tribes are called sheikhs and are an important part of dynamics. Currently, Oman's cultural scene is booming with a lot of independent artists, filmmakers, social media personalities, singers, and poets from Gen-Z making a significant impact on how Oman is viewed abroad. This is noteworthy as Oman as a contemporary culture only really began to reflect on itself in the past decade or so.

Religion: Oman's state religion is Islam, unlike Saudi Arabia, Iran, and most of the Muslim world however, Oman follows a sect called ibadism, a unique mix of tolerant conservative values with strict guidelines for it's followers coupled with an emphasis on coexistence with other people's. Ibadi's are a minority in the country however, with the majority of the population following sunni islam. The Ibadi values can directly be seen in the governance and foreign policy of Oman

Governance: Oman is an absolute monarchy with the Sultan as the head of the executive, legislator, and head of state. There are two councils that coordinate for legislation before it is ultimately approved or rejected by the sultan, the council of ministers and the people's consultative council. The current sultan is Sultan Haitham Bin Tariq Al-Said, who became sultan after the death of his cousin Sultan Qaboos Bin Said Al-Said.

Foreign Policy: It is widely assumed that Oman is somewhat detached from regional politics as initiatives by the country tend to not get covered, however, Oman is a very active regional actor. Many of the peaceful developments in the region have the state's fingerprints all over it. Oman is known regionally as a mediator, it's unique sect puts it in a position to mediate sectarian differences between Sunni and Shiite populations. Some of the foreign policy achievements of Oman include: - The Iran Nuclear Deal - Ceasefire between the Houthis and Saudi Arabia - The Saudi-Irani rapprochement - The reintegration of Qatar (2017)

Oman is one of around 28 countries in the world to have a Free-Trade Agreement with the United States, illustrating Oman's capability in managing friendly relations with the U.S. but also with Iran. This is not due to being passive however, Oman's peacemaking is at the center of it's religious beliefs as a nation, and also at the center of it's foreign policy. The major foreign policy objective of Oman is to achieve regional peace through dialogue with all parties and a non interventionist policy.

History: Oman is commonly known as one of the oldest countries in the Arab world, it's people came from Yemen and settled where it is now. It has one of the oldest monarchies in the world, dating back to the 18th century where the Al-Said family expelled the Persian empire from Oman and established their rule over the country. Oman was colonized by the Portuguese and Iranians and in turn colonized Iran and East Africa. Oman was one of the last states to outlaw slavery, banning the act in the 1960's under heavy pressure from the British.

Geography: Oman has a variety of biomes and terrain throughout the country with Muscat, Sur, and Sohar acting as coastal hubs of trade between the Hijar Mountains and the Sea of Oman, moving to the interior the land becomes mountainous with Nizwa (the old capital) acting as the heartlands of the state. Moving south Oman becomes an arid land covered in the dunes of the Empty Quarter, a desert shared with Saudi Arabia and the UAE. In the South East Salalah acts as the second largest city in Oman and also it's favourite holiday destination, with greenery and waterfalls reminiscent of South East Asia, Salalah is the go to place during Monsoon season where you can enjoy coconuts, mango, and hot tea while escaping the heat.

I hope you all enjoyed learning more about my country, Oman is known for it's hospitality so I highly recommend visiting when you get the chance, you will be treated like family the second you land.. but my advice... Avoid muscat in the summer lol.

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u/Necessary_Wing799 Geography Enthusiast 13d ago

Thanks for this detailed info, appreciate you taking the time to respond and so eloquently at that. Great information and perspective.

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u/wildcoasts 13d ago

Thanks for the detailed perspective.

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u/Physical-Arrival-868 13d ago

I love talking about Oman, thank you for reading!

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u/Ambitious-Laugh-7884 13d ago

hope you don't mind a quick question, starting in a few weeks I'm cycle touring in Oman wondering if its considered rude to wear shorts and tee shirt when entering restaurants or supermarkets during the day while I'm on the road.

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u/Physical-Arrival-868 13d ago

Hey, great question! It depends, it's generally considered inappropriate in malls and supermarkets to wear shorts, however it depends on the restaurant, if it's like a cafe or something small it will be fine. Anything that's dine in or doesn't have plastic tables, probably not the best choice

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u/Ambitious-Laugh-7884 13d ago

That's really helpful thanks

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u/orangefunnysun 13d ago

I lived in Oman for a year - and it is one of my favorite places. So many amazing memories because of the unique experiences. Only in Oman could I walk out of a movie theater at 11 pm in summer, you know expecting it to be cooler, but NOPE. It was like walking into the furnace. From AC to an oven. It was a full body experience that said - oh wow, I don’t think I’ll ever feel this level of heat again, and it has been 14 years, and I still confident about that statement. Lol.

Oman is also where I saw the milky way fir the first time. I visited the ancient city if Ubar. Experienced the zero-gravity place in Salalah, held a starfish when the tides went out… and had tea with an elder Omani who only wanted to talk and share cultures….Oman is a hidden gem.

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u/dhruvlrao 12d ago

I will say that out of all the Gulf citizens I've interacted with, Omanis are by far the kindest to me as a non-Arab.

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u/painter_business 13d ago

Everyone that visits likes it a lot

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u/emielver 13d ago

Thats true, i went 3 years ago. Its a beautiful country with really nice people there.

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u/Unlix 13d ago

My friends just returned from their holiday trip to Oman and they said it was their best travelling experience ever, they loved it so much.
They showed me the pictures they took and my god it looked beautiful.

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u/GrazingGeese 13d ago edited 12d ago

Everyone male maybe . My mom wasn’t allowed into some restaurants while visiting feom Dubai.

EDIT: asked my mom, asked my brother. This 100% happened. Here's an excerpt: "Mom, did you get denied access to restaurants?"

"Yes I did."

"Do you mean there maybe was a family section and a men's section you weren't allowed into?"

"No, I wasn't allowed into the only restaurant in the village."

"Were you scantily dressed perhaps?"

"Shocked No! I always dress conservatively (she lives in Dubai and knows the deal), brother's name always went to get food for me wherever we got, I didn't complain it's just the way things are in some places. I don't know how it is in Muscat, maybe people are less conservative there."

And she added she didn't see any women, claiming they weren't allowed out of the house. This sounds wrong to me, maybe she didn't see any women for other reasons, but that's not here nor there. Feel free to deny, divert, question, I don't care, my family's experience is valid and legitimate.

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u/sitbar 13d ago

I don’t believe this lol sorry. What reason would she have had to be denied? That makes no sense

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u/Which_Environment911 13d ago

i am omani, before spreading misinformation, can you point which restaurants didn't allow her?
most of my family arent even hijabis, and a lot of omanis are like that. there is barely any restrictions on women
oh but yea classic westrener. Arab=bad, middle east=bad

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u/True-Put-3712 13d ago

That's quite the broad statement.

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u/EbbFit4548 13d ago

As my Emirati friend put it, Oman is the guy sitting quietly in the corner of the bar while all the other guys brag about how big their dicks are knowing confidently he’s got the biggest one. Its a very Swiss like nation where quality of life and neutrality trumps regional belligerence. They were a backroom for Saudi Israeli talks for years.

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u/MysticSquiddy 13d ago

Similar to the Gulf States and Saudi Arabia in a way, just not as significant. Has its own oil exports, not to the same degree as the rest. Has decently wealthy people, not as wealthy as the rest.

Where it differs is where it spends its money. Unlike Saudi and the Gulf states, where they spend a good part of their money on post-modern architecture, Oman's infrastructure developments have a noticeably higher degree of traditional to them, mixing its past with its present.

Outside of this, Oman doesn't have a majority sector of Islam, being split about evenly between Sunni and Ibadi (which Oman has by far the highest community of).

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u/wjbc 13d ago

Oman is different from other Arab Gulf States because it maintains a good relationship with Iran. Oman has been called the Switzerland of the Middle East because it remains neutral in regional conflicts.

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u/Slimh2o 13d ago

A smart move, I'd say.....

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u/wjbc 13d ago

It’s worked well for Switzerland.

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u/IveATrennaPra 13d ago

Because of this, the former sultan was helpful to the US when negotiating the release of prisoners from Iran. Here’s a brief account from the Brookings Institute. Brookings Institute on Sultan Qaboos

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u/Pietpatate Cartography 13d ago

Loved it. Beautiful country, lovely people, could do with a bit less rubbish on beaches and nature in general.

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u/WishboneClassic 13d ago

One of the nicest people on the planet

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u/UmbertoEcoTheDolphin 13d ago

What's their name?

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u/salcander 13d ago

A much better version of the UAE

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u/jim45804 13d ago

So it is possible!

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u/ApolloThneed 13d ago

Dated a woman who immigrated from Oman to the US. She was super normal and her family was welcoming and easy to get along with. Didn’t end up working out but I was very impressed with how quickly and easily they took to American culture

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u/Just-a-torso 13d ago

The sultan who died a few years ago was gay but, even though it's a strict Muslim country, everybody was cool with it because he made them all filthy rich.

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u/Ok_Cartographer_8638 13d ago

I had Omani customer for 3 years, during their stay the Sultan died. They were really heart broken. I never saw same genuine reaction, admiration, and love toward a leader of nation.

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u/Kebab_Lord69 13d ago

Also dropped an insane perfume line

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u/toolfanboi 13d ago

I heard the Sultan of Oman lives in Zanzibar now

(that's just where he lives)

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u/rambyprep 13d ago

Heard it’s pretty nice, quite chill as far as gulf states go.

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u/shogun_oldtown 13d ago

Quoting the yt channel 'Geography Now'- "Oman is like everyone's favourite aunt in the Arab World"

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u/Ok-Push9899 13d ago

I think of it as the Botswana of the middle east, but with loads more money. They keep their head down, they have good governance, and they watch all their neighbours turn themselves inside-out with strife, intrigue, and dubious political alliances.

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u/throwawaythreehalves 13d ago

Oman used to be a bit of an international player and a trade hub. They used to rule Zanzibar in Tanzania and Gwadar in Pakistan for example. Think of them like the super advanced aliens you see on sci-fi shows who retire from the hubbub of politics to just chill. Omanis are a chill people.

On the other hand, they do have some pretty sizeable British investment. Not necessarily financial but in terms of leadership, military and espionage. Some consider them to be a low key British colony. They are not, but they definitely have some level of.. collusion. Perhaps for those reasons, they also prefer to stay out of the limelight.

Finally everyone who has been to Oman has come away saying it's beautiful and stunning. There's even a pretty active twitter account who keeps telling people to move to Oman lol.

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u/OStO_Cartography 13d ago

They rigthfully shunned the Emirates' and Arabian gaudy gianticism and vanity projects, and have spent many years turning their country into a very peaceful, beautiful, and traditional tourist destination. Their architecture in particular is stunning.

If you truly want to experience Middle Eastern hospitality, history, and culture, visit Oman.

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u/buckinsand 13d ago

.... oh they have their share of vanity projects too (Al Mouj immediately springs to mind).... and they have taken a page or two from UAE / Qatar with investments in high profile 5 star projects (ie. Al Anantara, Alila, Jebel Akhdar, Chedi, Al Bustan Palace ... to name just a few). These are scattered across the mountains, Muscat and Salalah.

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u/probablyisntavirus 13d ago

Southern Oman is a fascinating place, in the late summer the Khareef monsoons get trapped between the Indian Ocean and the plateau nearby Salalah, leading to the desert bursting out in magnificent green! This is a photo I took in August when I visited Salalah and Mirbat!

https://preview.redd.it/64x9j3az8u6e1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=76f4684d4afdc15519a63edf1add36fff32ac779

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u/paradoxstax 13d ago

Sultan Quabus bin Said literally turned the country from a backwards coastal fishing state to a well functioning relatively rich state. He also fought off nomadic bandit groups, while building good infrastructure. In my opinion he was the best absolute monarch who ever existed.

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u/conflicteddiuresis 13d ago

He even had his own perfume line. What more could one want in a monarch

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u/OtherwiseMenu1505 13d ago

Oh man, where do i start?

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u/CoyoteTall6061 13d ago

Yemen, not much to say

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u/TrifleAccomplished77 13d ago

me too, Iran out of ideas

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u/szazszorszep 13d ago

Idk, I could talk about it for at least a Qatar of an hour

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u/N00B5L4YER 13d ago

Kud you wait? I need to think

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u/LimpEnvironment5144 13d ago

How long do I have Kuwait?

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u/lucasgasparin 13d ago

I only got to know about Oman because Avicii died there...

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u/Hexdoctor 13d ago

A weird cognitive dissonance between practicing a form of Islam that specifically believes in meritocratic election of leaders and being a monarchy. Other than that, pretty chill compared to the surrounding region.

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u/The_Syndic 13d ago

Did a bit of work for an ex-SAS guy who was over there in the late 60s during the Dhofar War. They sent the SAS over to support the Sultan who was fighting a war against Marxist rebels. The rulers have a lot of connection to Britain, go to British universities, train at Sandhurst (Army Officer School) etc. He had some fascinating stories.

Seems to be the most "civilised" and stable of the Arab countries.

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u/FlyinCryangle 13d ago

Just spend a week there. Beautiful country with lots of nature. Best word to describe it is “peaceful”. It felt special to me and my wife and we would 100% visit again

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u/Time_Pressure9519 13d ago

Right now Omanians are looking at their phones.

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u/AF_Mirai 13d ago

Probably just Omani.

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u/RaoulDukeRU 13d ago

Like all people on the Arabian peninsula. Many have their phones hanging around their necks (like a necklace).

If you think that people in the West use their phones all the time, visit Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar or Kuwait. They're one with their phones!

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u/bumder9891 13d ago edited 13d ago

I've only been to Muscat so I'll compare that to other gulf cities I visited.

Muscat (and Oman overall) is far more authentically Arabic like the way we imagine old Arabia of the past. There are some fascinating souks that look like something out of Aladdin. It's definitely a contrast to the hyper modern cities of Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Bahrain etc. Muscat is low rise and far more laid back. Buildings are only about 7 stories at the highest and it's very spread out.

Muscat is flanked by bare, rugged mountains that drop straight into the sea. It looks like the moon when you're flying in. Bizarre currency that is really high value so one rial is worth like $2.60. It's strange taking a taxi for 15 Rial thinking it's not bad, only to realise it's about $40. Extremely hot and humid since it's on the sea.

Muscat is arid, barren and hot. Apparently southern Oman is more tropical. Oman feels more homogeneous than the UAE which is more diverse, I encountered far more native Omanis compared to the UAE where locals are the minority.

Oman has the friendliest locals in the gulf IMO.

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u/son_of_titian 13d ago

I met a guy from Yemen and we got to talking about travel. I asked him where I should go if I wanted to see the Middle East and he immediately said Oman.

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u/Cobralore 13d ago

Oman is the chill guy of the middle-east. They have money but they dont want to participate in the skyscrapers dick measuring contest.

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u/TobeRez Political Geography 13d ago

While the UAE is pumping its wealth into modernisation and high-rise buildings, Oman uses its wealth to preserve its culture and traditions. Its a really nice country to visit and if you respect their values and culture you will have a great time there. Everyone is welcome.

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u/ScarlordI 13d ago

I don't know much about them tbh, but if I remember correctly, in the northern part that connects to the UAE, there are enclaves that they share with the neighboring country. It's pretty interesting.

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u/bambaikadon 13d ago

People eat, shit and work there probably.

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u/SE_prof 13d ago

It's because their sultan lives in Zanzibar now.

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u/jayron32 13d ago

That's just where he lives

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u/Lironcareto 13d ago

And they have their own chilled flavor of Islam.

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u/TrueInspector8668 13d ago

Now picturing a range of Islam drinks, from "Chilled Omani" (light blue can) all the way to "Aggressive Wahhabi" (black with white lettering)

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u/WishboneClassic 13d ago

One of the nicest people on the planet

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u/Qudpb 13d ago

Deadly snakes, don’t go hiking on flip flops on those mountains. 10 years ago a buddy living in Dubai went hiking there (on flip flops) got bit by a snake, turned the entire leg black, hurt like crazy, used all anti venom in the Arabian peninsula (helicoptered in from all over) took a while, almost lost his leg, all good now.

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u/gattomeow 13d ago

Most of the population will be in an around Muscat and on the southern coast near Salalah. Musandam (that exclave north of Fujairah) is a popular destination for Omani and Emirati rock climbers.

For cyclists, there are nice scenic routes around Nizwa. When you go further south-west there are big empty stretches of straight roads. The south is fairly green and lush during the rainy season.

In terms of languages to get by - most people will speak Arabic and English - in fact, alot of the workforce is foreign and often prefer to use English amongst themselves. Hardly anyone speaks Portuguese or French.

Oman also used to have external territories - Gwadar, which is now part of Pakistan, and concessions on the east coast of Africa.

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u/destiny_crab 13d ago

Oman is incredible. Went on a two week rock climbing trip there a few years ago. It's everything Arabian countries should be, and I'd highly recommend visiting before tourism ruins it. Beautiful wet canyons to swim, cliff jump, and canyoneer in, amazing rock for climbing and deep water soloing, great scuba, incredible history everywhere, safe, and you can generally camp anywhere too.

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u/mglyptostroboides 13d ago

Geologically, it's very interesting. I did a research project on the Oman Ophiolite in college. It's a very interesting topic, but I can only say so much without doxxing myself. Wikipedia has a wonderful article on the topic, though.

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u/CrimsonTightwad 13d ago edited 13d ago

Ibadis, much more tolerant and tranquil form of Islam, compared to bloodthirsty and savage Wahhabi and Salafists that surround them. Oman is their refuge and bastion from them.

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u/jayron32 13d ago

Oil, mostly

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u/Beautiful-Eye-5113 13d ago

Opposite of yemen

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u/luav26 13d ago

Oman is what Yemen can be and uplift millions

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u/Big-Attention-69 13d ago

The 3rd strongest currency in the world, Omani Rial

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u/DontPoopInMyPantsPlz 13d ago

It has an enclave and an exclave.

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u/Surippa 13d ago

The YouTuber Real Life Lore made a great video about the history and differences between Oman and Yemen. I highly recommend watching the video if you guys are interested.

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u/slutty_muppet 13d ago

It's known for its authoritarian, British-backed monarchy that they defended in the Dhofar War. A documentary about it was the first one directed by an Arab woman to be shown at Cannes.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hour_of_Liberation_Has_Arrived

https://jacobin.com/2023/09/oman-dhufar-anticolonial-revolution-60s-70s-british-imperialism-history

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u/Revolutionary-Tie-26 13d ago

I just went, it’s awesome

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u/BadChris666 13d ago

It has followed a fairly moderate political agenda and keeps ties with most nations. However internally, there is little protection for civil liberties. Women are discriminated in numerous areas. Censorship and self censorship is routinely practiced. You are not allowed to hold any public meeting without government permission. Criticism of the Sultan or government is illegal. Homosexuality is criminalized.

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u/lomosaltado333 13d ago

I talk about it all the time, but that’s because I’m always playing the “countries that start with the letter” game, and it’s the only country that starts with O

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u/Stu_Thom4s 13d ago

Their men's national cricket team is improving pretty rapidly.

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u/ErikJay-N 13d ago

Sultan Qaabos was a perfume king

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u/Upbeat_Psychology915 13d ago

Visited there, just a wonderful place. The Omani people were so very nice. Not flashy, not artificial like the UAE.

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u/GoDeacs7 13d ago

Went to Oman with my wife a few years ago. A few days on the beach, a couple days camping in the desert, and then a few days up in the mountains. Amazing place. Rented a 4x4 and drove almost 1000km over the course of our trip. Super friendly people and incredible natural beauty.